<p>I have seen three threads where high school seniors were seriously afraid of having their acceptances revoked because they might get a 2 or 3 on an AP exam.</p>
<p>Just curious, but has anyone ever heard of a college pulling their acceptance because of poor senior year grades?</p>
<p>Yes, it can happen. I don't believe it would likely occur based on AP test grades. However, my D and I attended a Junior Day presentation at St. Olaf in February and in response to a question, they did note that, though rare, they had recently revoked an admission based on very poor performance for last term of senior year. They noted that their acceptance letter contains language indicating that enrollment is contingent upon successful completion of all remaining HS course requirements.</p>
<p>Harvard last year revoked admission of football recruit who plagiarized high school paper. He prepped for another year and is going to Colgate in the fall. Lesson is that student conduct can also get you bounced.</p>
<p>I woke up last night at 2:00 am in a cold sweat because I had a nightmare that the senioritis epidemic in my house was more serious than I had thought. Both girls were allowed to go to prom, but not graduation. And BOTH colleges sent letters rescinding their admissions offer.</p>
<p>AP exams are not college admissions requirements, and while advanced standing would not be credited for a 2 or 3 in an AP exam, I cannot imagine that a school would pull an admission over senior year AP scores. Grades, yes. AP scores, no.</p>
<p>As I have mentioned before, several of my grades took a serious plummet the second half of my senior year in HS and I received a letter which I can quote to this day, over 30 years later:
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"Since you have been accepted contingent upon your continued academic success, please contact this office immediately concerning your third quarter grades."
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There is nothing quite like the terror of receiving such a letter and realizing its implications. I was able to make amends and matriculate, but it was a nerve-wracking time. Yes, it can and does happen.</p>
<p>I am not aware of one of these situations directly. However, one thing that gave me pause last year was a thread where someone noted that a school had received a higher matriculation rate than they had expected, and had some logistical problems with dorm room, etc. The thread noted that this would give schools another reason to review senior performance with an eye to revoking an admission or two. This was all hypothetical, but it made me think of it in a different way.</p>
<p>The stories that I know about -- and they are just that -- are situations such as Caltech (one story) in which a student's poor performance in key subjects in senior year led to a revocation because the school decided that this student was't going to be prepared to undertake the freshman year physics and math at Caltech. It had nothing to do with AP (Caltech doesn't accept AP anyway, as far as I know). It had everything to do with an estimate of the student's ability to do the work at Caltech.</p>
<p>I also recall a case (from the PR board) of a student whose admission to UCLA was revoked after his senior year grades sagged sharply.</p>
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<p>With that open schedule we had in the 70's, it's no wonder any of us graduated at all. ;) That is a scary letter!</p>
<p>Awhile ago, I spoke in person with someone in Northwestern's Admissions Office. She told me that a handful or two of kids fall into this category each year. Often the student is told to retake the course in question over the summer in order to keep the fall acceptance. Occasionally, if a student doesn't agree to this, the student is allowed to take the course in the fall and enter in January. In these instances,
I am not sure what constitutes a "low" grade; my S had a "D" and slid through without penalty -- not something I'd recommend or I am proud of.</p>
<p>heard of this per se causing a rescinded admission or a policy being implemented regarding rescinded offers that wouldn't have been implemented anyway, generally involving serious grade issues and moral and ethical failures. The waiting lists are there for a reason.</p>
<p>What I have heard about is students being offered attractive remunerative incentives to defer their attendance by a semester or so, but not being selected out by grades for this. Kinda sounds like the airlines - "Class of 2010 is overbooked, if anyone has a flexible educational plan and would be willing to enter a later class, please come to the podium". I have no personal knowledge of an instance like this but have seen some posts to this end.</p>
<p>I do imagine there are sometimes a few admissions officers who start sprucing up the guest rooms in their houses when the acceptances at their schools exceed expectations. Or maybe not. :-)</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>Bill</p>
<p>I have never heard of an offer rescinded because of a low score or no score on an AP exam. You don't even have to send the score for the AP exam; you have to so designate if you want it sent, and they don't come out until July.</p>
<p>There are a number of reasons why an admit might be rescinded, and a school might be less forgiving of the transgressions if they are overbooked, I am sure. There are plenty of seniors who get into disciplinary or academic trouble between the time of the acceptance (or last report sent to the colleges) and the end of the year. You even have all summer to get into trouble. All of the info needs to be sent to the college if you want to maximum consideration for yourself on the offence. Colleges tend to be more forgiving if you are the one reporting the issue, not an anonymous note or school letting them know about your problems. But if a college is overbooked, they may well be less forgiving. It is a chance you take.</p>
<p>I am not sure that you have to send your AP scores anyplace unless you want to get credit, so I don't think a low score will keep you out. I have heard but don't know anyone personally who failed a class relevant to their major and were put on hold until that was fixed. I think it was a failed calculus class and a science or engineering major...</p>
<p>2 years ago at local HS, a NMS Commended Scholar student did not keep up senior grades, and all college admissions were pulled.
The student took a year off and reapplied last year, and has now finished freshman year.</p>
<p>Way back when Ohio State rescinded its offer of admission to me after I did poorly in my last 7 semesters of HS.</p>
<p><em>worries</em> I definitely dropped a lot this senior year. When do they rescind admission? After you send them your final transcript?</p>
<p>I wish a real college adm counselor would chime in here, because I suspect that we all (except mootmom) are dealing with "stories."
First of all, I suspect that non-grade issues are responsible for most revocations, or a combination of disciplinary & grade issues. After all, if one is behaving so badly that one is flirting with suspension or worse, grades will go down anyway, and significantly. Academic dishonesty is (or should be) automatic disqualification.</p>
<p>My DS#1 was voted "worst senior slump" in his class, primarily due to his grandmother's sudden death in late October. He was admitted ED to Caltech, and is a junior there now. BTW, mackinaw, Caltech does not accept AP exam grades for any purpose whatsoever. Instead, they send a series of their own placement exams (math, physics, chemistry, biology, writing) which must be completed and returned in June after graduation. These exams are graded by faculty according to what is expected preparation in order to successfully complete the core. My S did not "pass" the Caltech math exam, despite a 5 on the AB calculus AP exam, and was placed into a "remedial" section of the math core class. There are also "remedial" sections of physics, chemistry, and writing skills (more students in this last one than any of the others).</p>
<p>To the HS students reading this thread, I think we should emphasize that we are talking about MAJOR collapse here, such as a serious trend. For example, if you finished Junior year English with an A, and are taking AP English, a report card showing 1Q "B", 2Q "C", third Q "D", would certainly generate a "scary letter" like mootmom's. I don't think that if you are talking about a slip from A to B for a quarter or two there would be any effect. It just happens too often.</p>
<p>i duno. I met a college counselor from another school and told me college usually do not like to revoke admissions. lets think about it, if you get accepted and accept their admission offer, that means the college is gonna get sum money off you. (tuition, etc. ). if you give up one student, that 20K + you lose for each student. yea, so having a admission revoke is really hard to do unless you seriously go from straight A's to straight D's and C's</p>
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<p>because I suspect that we all (except mootmom) are dealing with "stories." </p>
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<p>What I posted before was not a "story".
It came directly from my friend (who told me in person & face to face)
that her child had all college acceptances revoked because of senior year grade slippage.</p>
<p>With the number of students applying to colleges increasing over the next few years and the fact that at pretty much any school there are literally hundreds of students on waitlists (some who do not have colleges) I can see schools recinding admissions without having any negative impact on their yeild. </p>
<p>Enrollment management has become a major part of the admissions process. It is important for colleges to accept students that will most likely finish. Their freshman retention rates are also very important. No school wants a student that they will end up having to put on probation or having drop out. </p>
<p>Grades are important because they reflect the best predictor of future behavior being relative past behavior. Think about it for every student who decides to have a senior slump there is another student keeping up their grades in the hope of getting a spot.</p>
<p>2 years ago, there was this guy who made a 1600 on the SAT and was accepted at UNC-Chapel Hill. During his senior year, he made some C's and D's and failed a class and had a GPA of something like 1.3 for the year. Carolina rescinded the kids admission and his parents filed a lawsuit. I think the courts ruled in favor of Carolina, so this guy did not enroll at UNC. </p>
<p>Having a minor slip in senior year grades is fine, but blowing off classes completely is not wise.</p>