<p>Does anyone know or can find, the total number of Rhodes scholars from the following colleges ever?</p>
<p>University of Pennsylvania
Amherst College
University of California- San Diego</p>
<p>Don't know all time, but since 1998:</p>
<p>Amherst 3
Penn 3
UCSD 0</p>
<p>for comparison:</p>
<p>Harvard 34
yale 23
U Chicago 15
USMA 15
Duke 14
Stanford 13
USNA 12
Princeton 11
Brown 8
Wash U 7
Columbia 5</p>
<p>hmm, why is Princeton so far behind HYS?</p>
<p>Harvard always gets about 3 or 4 every year. Sometimes more -- rarely less. Except 2000? That one year they didn't get any.</p>
<p>that's interesting; i always thought that HYP were basically identical in terms of the quality of both the college and the students.</p>
<p>also, is sports mandatory for Rhodes scholars? Its wikipedia page states that
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Rhodes' legacy specified four standards by which applicants were to be judged:</p>
<p>literary and scholastic attainments;
energy to use one's talents to the full, as exemplified by fondness for and success in sports;
truth, courage, devotion to duty, sympathy for and protection of the weak, kindliness, unselfishness and fellowship;
moral force of character and instincts to lead, and to take an interest in one's fellow beings.
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<p>No. That was then -- when Dear Cecil wanted the most masculine of men.</p>
<p>Now it's more along the lines of displaying vigor in something. EC - wise.</p>
<p>In recent years, Harvard has not done so well with Rhodes:</p>
<p>2008 2
2007 3
2006 0
2005 5
2004 4
2003 4
2002 5</p>
<p>Note that these are US Rhodes. Harvard (along with others like Yale) also delights in issuing press releases counting Rhodes from other countries (like Bermuda in 06), where the scholarship competition is far less. </p>
<p>Harvard receives more Rhodes because they have the most applicants. Rumor has it that they have as many as 40 or 50 per year. Each house scouts and mentors Rhodes applicants, and contrary to what some have told me, there are no limits, either by house or by Harvard in total.</p>
<p>Contrast this with poor U. Chicago, who has 8 or 9 applicants each year and frequently wins 2 or 3, like this year....or Stanford, who has too many of its applicants competing with themselves as California residents.</p>
<p>Princeton's smaller than Harvard or Yale.</p>
<p>Princeton is also more pre professional in orientation and probably has far fewer applicants as all the clearly pp schools do.</p>
<p>I'm from Singapore, which doesn't seem to have a Rhodes "branch". But many of my countrymen have gone to Rhodes-eligible countries like US and Australia and won Rhodes scholarships before. I know there's a swimmer from my country who won the Rhodes at Berkeley, and officer cadets from my country who won it at USMA. Am I eligible to be a US Rhodes then if I graduate from Princeton?</p>
<p>You must be a US citizen to apply for a US Rhodes. Just attending in the US is not enough.</p>
<p>It's a poor indicator of anything other than the applicants entering. Fulbrights are a much better indicator of prep that actually happened once a student is already attending.</p>
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In recent years, Harvard has not done so well with Rhodes
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<p>14 in the past five years sounds pretty good to me. Has any other US school done better?</p>
<p>When it comes to scholarships like Rhodes, Marshall, and Gates, what you did matters more than where you went. The top universities produce more winners because of the caliber/motivation of the student body as a whole which leads to more applications, but there are always winners that will come from less prestigious institutions.</p>
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You must be a US citizen to apply for a US Rhodes. Just attending in the US is not enough.
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<p>But what of the Singaporean citizens who have won the Rhodes after graduating from Harvard or USMA? They're all over the internet. Unless my country does have a Rhodes commission I wasn't aware of.</p>
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<p>Don't know all time, but since 1998:</p>
<p>Amherst 3 Penn 3 UCSD 0</p>
<p>for comparison:</p>
<p>Harvard 34 yale 23 U Chicago 15 USMA 15 Duke 14 Stanford 13 USNA 12 Princeton 11 Brown 8 Wash U 7 Columbia 5
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<p>I saw these numbers compiled elsewhere slightly differently. I saved them and thought I would share. I cant give a citation because the webpage is no longer available but you should be able to look through the old issues of the respective campus newspapers to verify the numbers.</p>
<p>The above posters numbers updated through last fall and including all internationals are as follows for Harvard, Yale and Princeton.</p>
<p>35---Harvard (including eight foreign Rhodes)
24---Yale (no foreign)
15---Princeton (including four foreign Rhodes)</p>
<p>Since 1904 when the program was started the numbers are:</p>
<p>331---Harvard
237---Yale
213---Princeton</p>
<p>The next highest schools after these three are Stanford and the U.S. Military Academy, each of which have about 70.</p>
<p>When compared to the total number of undergraduates who have been educated at each school, the count of Rhodes Scholars per 1,000 undergraduates is as follows:</p>
<p>2.98 per 1,000 --- Harvard
2.73 per 1,000 --- Princeton
2.61 per 1,000 --- Yale</p>
<p>Some criticize the Rhodes scholarship process as notoriously incestuous. Former scholars form the committees that pick future scholars so there tends to be a good deal of inbreeding. I believe that this helps explain why HPY have done so much better in this competition than other schools. Most other major scholarships, including the Marshall Scholarships, do not do this.</p>
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The top universities produce more winners because of the caliber/motivation of the student body as a whole which leads to more applications
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<p>That, and the fact that the top universities have more funding to spend on staff to prepare students for these (advising, etc.). Stanford, for example, has an entire subset of their Office of Undergraduate Advising to help get their undergrads these scholarships:</p>
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Along with the Overseas Resource Center, UAR staff help students to compete for merit scholarships and post-baccalaureate fellowships. UAR also administers campus nomination competitions for the Goldwater, Udall, Beinecke, Center for the Study of the Presidency, Jack Kent Cooke, Carnegie, Liebmann, and Truman scholarships, as well as the Goldman Sachs Global Leaders Program.
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<p>Schools like UC San Diego don't put as much effort (or as much of their resources) into such.</p>
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Some criticize the Rhodes scholarship process as notoriously incestuous. Former scholars form the committees that pick future scholars so there tends to be a good deal of inbreeding. I believe that this helps explain why HPY have done so much better in this competition than other schools.
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<p>This is very possible. It'd help to explain in particular why Stanford falls somewhat far behind them in pure numbers--Stanford has in more recent times become an equal to HYP, but was only burgeoning when the program started in 1904. (Not to mention the SF earthquake that hit Stanford in 1906 probably set it back some.)</p>
<p>What are the number of Rhodes Scholars by university? Anyone have a list?</p>
<p>Here's a ranking of the number of Rhodes scholarship winners (along with winners of the Marshall, Truman, Goldwater and Udall scholarships) from public institutions for the period of 1986-2008:</p>
<p>Here's a ranking of the same scholarship winners from both private and public institutions combined for the same period:</p>
<p>I couldn't find a similar ranking among private instituions only, or a ranking for publics/privates over a longer period of time, although the data must be available somewhere . . .</p>
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Harvard (along with others like Yale) also delights in issuing press releases counting Rhodes from other countries (like Bermuda in 06), where the scholarship competition is far less.
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<p>Uh, what's wrong with that? Even if the 'scholarship competition is less', that doesn't take away from the fact that those students who won it went to Harvard (or Yale). Hence, that begs the question of why other schools couldn't have attracted those students instead so that they could count them as Rhodes winners. </p>
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Harvard receives more Rhodes because they have the most applicants. Rumor has it that they have as many as 40 or 50 per year. Each house scouts and mentors Rhodes applicants, and contrary to what some have told me, there are no limits, either by house or by Harvard in total.
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<p>I think that actually speaks to problems at other schools. Why don't other schools have more applicants? Why don't they have mentors and scouts to aid their applicants?</p>