Rhodes Scholarships: Princeton 1, Harvard College 0

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<p>Sorry, Byerly, you had it coming. ;) And yes, there is a student getting a Master's at the Kennedy School, but he is a naval academy grad.</p>

<p>The real news, actually, is that Yale really cleaned up. Haven't counted how many awards (too early in the morning). Duke did very well, too. And U Chicago. </p>

<p>A propos of the ongoing eating club debate here, the Princeton nominee is an Ivy club officer. </p>

<p><a href="http://www.rhodesscholar.org/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.rhodesscholar.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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<p>Another way to look at the score:</p>

<p>Stanford 2, Princeton 1, Harvard 0.</p>

<p>:)</p>

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<p>what are you two doing so early in the morning? zephyr is in CA and aparent is in Alaska !!!</p>

<p>yes Duke did very well.</p>

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<p>Although it is cold here today on the East Coast, Simba, I can't claim to be in Alaska. What are YOU doing up so early out there in Texas? ;)</p>

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<p>Excuse me....somehow I thought you lived in Alaska....my mistake.</p>

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<p>For most schools it's big news if they get a Rhodes scholar. Apparently for Harvard it's big news if they don't.</p>

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<p>Coureur, please ignore this thread. After x years of Byerly needling us here, it's nothing more than an opportunity to return the favor. ;) I figure last year Harvard had so many Rhode scholars that the selection committee must have held back...</p>

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<p>Haha, a pie in the eye for Byerly. :D</p>

<p>No no, zephyr. The correct way to look at it is:
Duke 3, Stanford 2, Princeton 1, Harvard 0</p>

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<p>Simba, it's not what am I doing up, but why had I not gone to bet yet. </p>

<p>I can't argue with the facts, warbler. </p>

<p>But the only score that matters to me is Stanford 2, Harvard 0. After topping them in fundraising and SCEA applicants, we're on a roll.</p>

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<p>How very funny.</p>

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<p>Your triumphant joy is apparent, aparent, but misplaced - one year does not make a trend. </p>

<p>Granted, this is no year to boast for H (although enrollment at KSG certainly didn't hurt that Navy dude's luck :D), but when looking at somewhat longer periods, H has produced far more Rhodes scholars than any other college: As Wikipedia has it, as many as distant runner-up Y, P and M ** combined <a href="S%20btw%20has%20about%20one%20fifth%20of%20H,%20Duke%20less%20than%20one%20tenth">/b</a></p>

<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhodes_Scholarship#Undated%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhodes_Scholarship#Undated&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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<p>Playfair, now you've stolen Byerly's thunder! He'll have to come up with a really creative reply now...;)</p>

<p>I am not really into "triumphant joy" when it comes to defending a particular college. Just having a little fun here.</p>

<p>(Now if my own kid won the Rhodes...) Look at this year's Princeton winner: "Miller said his parents were just as overwhelmed as he was upon learning the news. When he called to tell his mother, who was in a nearby department store, she sobbed so loudly that a manager tried to console her, thinking someone in her family had died." <a href="http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/archives/2005/11/21/news/13889.shtml%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/archives/2005/11/21/news/13889.shtml&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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<p>Playfair: I second aparent's sentiment. Most poster are not in to gloating - except one.</p>

<p>Also, if you notice, this was posted on the Princeton Board not on the Harvard board. Majority of Byerly's posts are on boards other than Harvard.</p>

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<p>Penn has one this year, too.</p>

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<p>The biggest winner this year, however, was the naval academy.</p>

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<p>I know the Princeton Rhodes winner, and he is truly a lovely young man. The kind of person you can't help but take an instant liking to. One has to put aside school rivalries for someone like Jeff - I couldn't be happier for him.</p>

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<p>Harvard 315</p>

<p>Yale 163</p>

<p>Princeton 125</p>

<p>West Point 70</p>

<p>Stanford 64</p>

<p>University of Virginia 45</p>

<p>University of North Carolina 38</p>

<p>Dartmouth 38</p>

<p>Air Force Academy 33</p>

<p>Naval Academy 30</p>

<p>University of Chicago 28</p>

<p>Duke 28</p>

<p>MIT 27 </p>

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<p>That said, it is certainly the most newsworthy thing about the Rhodes this year that there was only one Harvard student among the winners. MAN BITES DOG, as they say!</p>

<p>The SECOND most newsworthy thing is that the celebrated football player Hartigan lost out to a black female non-athlete as designated Brown winner. That old bigot Cecil Rhodes, if he were alive today, would turn over in his grave!</p>

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<p>Because they are allocated on a state by state basis, National Merit Scholars and Rhodes Scholars are among the worst measures for comparing schools. No wonder that Harvard leads both.</p>

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<p>actually one of the big confounders wrt harvard is that both radcliffe and harvard sponsored 4 candidates per year for many many years - and yet the two formerly separate yet intrinsicly joined institutions are counted together. Thus while harvard has twice the number of rhodes compared to yale, its nearest competitor, it was allowed more nominations over the years. I'd be interested to see exactly when rhodes started going to women and how many of that 300+ from harvard are really from radcliffe nominations. This is not the case anymore, since radcliffe has formerly dissolved and with it its ability to nominate students for the Rhodes. I would venture that if you could control for # of nominations as well as class size, HYP would not be so different. But since I am busy with my patients, I'll leave that for the more inclined.</p>

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<p>What is the big deal with RS? I mean, if you go to a Harvard Grad school, you are going to a better institution than Oxbridge. Harvard Business and Law are the best in the world (disreguard US News). I just dont see the logic in going from the best in the world to a 'lower' institution. I mean, after going to Harvard College, Id rather get a JD/MBA at Harvard than at Oxbridge.</p>