<p>Bears and dogs, I don't understand your comment at all – and I especially don't understand why you seem to be so offended by my posting. I certainly know that Any Mator does not want to be a lawyer. He/she made it quite clear that they want to study art and perhaps take a few law classes on the side.</p>
<p>Post #7: "So my plan was to study animation at RISD and take law courses at Brown.”</p>
<p>Post #15: “…I want to be able to major in art but also take non-art courses, maybe some law ones, and RISD allows me to do that.”</p>
<p>Since Any Mator is making an incorrect assumption that he can take law classes at Brown while studying at RISD, why shouldn’t I – or anyone else, for that matter – point out that they really can’t do that?</p>
<p>This is what I think, correct me if I am wrong, OP Anymator boy or girl there.
The class you might wanna take could be poli sci or sociology or public policy, sort of law-ish thing that surely Brown undergrad does great?</p>
<p>This is what I think, correct me if I am wrong, worried_mom.
You picked on that poor Florida med art girl digging up her old post.
It got to be your nature to correct people around so everyone else would get right information. It is nice of you to do that if there is no venomous scent in it when you point out, I don’t know how to put it, shortcomings of kids either naive or misguided with no fault of theirs because they don't have 'rather involved' parent?</p>
<p>Bears and dogs, from my standpoint, YOU seem to be the "venomous" one since you're the one who is attacking me. I apparently offended you somehow, but I have no idea what your problem is.</p>
<p>The OP specifically said "law courses" so I was just letting them know that Brown doesn't offer any -- which I thought was an important fact since the OP seemed to be planning on taking such classes at Brown. Nowhere did they mention taking "poli sci or sociology or public policy" and I wasn't commenting on those subjects.</p>
<p>These discussion boards are intended to give people an opportunity to share information and that 's what I was doing -- just as you are doing by telling AnyMator that they might want to take classes in some other dept. besides law. I'm sorry that my posting bothered you so much.</p>
<p>---From what I've seen RISD's FAV major seems more experimental than say Ringling or CalArts where there is a focus on 3d/character animation etc. </p>
<p>---Hrm, no one has experienced both. But I feel like the Transfer foundation would be more grueling, since it is the freshman foundation YEAR compressed into a much smaller amount of of time. But both require lots of hard work.</p>
<p>---RISD is spread throughout Providence. It's a smaller city, but it's still a city. If you have "street smarts" you'll be fine. But I will say that since it's a smaller city, certain areas are completely empty/eerie/shady in the dead of night. Ironically it makes me feel less safe than a huge city like New York (where there are always people out in the streets).</p>
<p>---Some people are nice. Some people are snobby. Some people are both. Some people are neither. Personally I feel like the majority are very welcoming, open-minded, and nice. </p>
<p>---I'm content with the dorms. But it really depends on what housing you recieve. 15 West seems amazing for example, and I'm actually really happy with the freshman dorm rooms (considering they're for freshman).</p>
<p>---RISD has a reputation for being stingy with Financial aid. For example, international students usually don't receive alot of finannicial assistance (like scholarships or grants). The FA office is kind of small, and most people are on loans, are wealthy, and some have scholarships. But most manage to get by.</p>
<p>Thank You for all of the insite it really helped. I might apply to both RISD and Calarts but I am not sure. </p>
<p>And yes I knew Brown didn't offer law coures but they have a law society/club and I was thinking of taking international studies class. It's my fault for not stating that in the beinging. Sorry and Thank You.</p>
<p>AS for fashion when I went to vist RISD last year they had a fashion show type thing and all of the clothes looked really cool and things that I would love to wear. It looked like RISD as good fashion classes/degree but I am ot sure.</p>
<p>Whew….
That’s kind of what I thought you meant in your posts.
Now that you spoke up, I can back off in peace.
Good luck to you !!
If anyone cares, I have venomous comment about RISD fashion. We toured in their studio and saw this bit of polyfill dyed in colors (lavender, pink, turquoise, buttercup yellow) packed in sandwich bags like cotton candy then alternately put together on dress dummy among other arty crudely made stuff. I do some sewing for living and it sort of depress me to see that you won’t learn technical thing here highly regarded super expensive art school.
Sure I know that I have no idea what I am talking about, I will shut up now.</p>
<p>Come to RISD if you get a chance. It's a great place and foundation will seriously change the way you think about life and art. The work load is intense in order to break your habits of being a little perfectionist - once you start churning out work you will learn more about yourself and your art in 3 weeks than you have in your entire life. If art is what you want you will not work harder, you will not be happier, and you will not be challenged more than at RISD.</p>
<p>Go in with an open mind is all I have to say. But do go in.</p>
<p>If you want an actual answer to the question of RISD's fashion program, and not a one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard (look no further than right above me), it's worth visiting. The program has a great reputation, and there is certainly something to be said about these important design fields (apparel, architecture, industrial design, etc) being taught in the context of a visual arts school. It is an environment conducive to productivity and creativity.</p>
<p>dont bother going to risd, it's not as good as its made out to be - the place is full of cooler than thou types and they really dont have the talent to make up for it, the fact that they go on about workrate so much should alert anyone that there is a lack of creative spark at risd.</p>
<p>rules:</p>
<ol>
<li><p>if they dont talk, theyre not talented.</p></li>
<li><p>if they go on about work rate, theyre not talented either.</p></li>
</ol>
<p>there is an abundance of such types at risd and i should know because i was there, i saw people leaving the courses because of the incredible coldness of the place and people.</p>
<p>they may like to project an image of being the best but what notable talent
have they produced ?</p>
<p>one guy that makes stickers and a cartoonist in the past twenty years ?</p>
<p>you're thinking this is a good art school ?</p>
<p>No, they do produce unique talent
Like the intern we had, soon to be Yale bound whom not only butchered $ 30 dollar/yard virgin cotton without making muslin pattern first to see if it fit then butchered her own hand with exacto knife.
Not teaching about how to sew zipper is one thing but putting your other hand on where blade would be aiming is just wrong for $ 50K plus a year.</p>
<p>jabberwocky, Seth McFarlane is not the only notable RISD alumni. If you know anything at all about art and design, you will have heard of people like David Macaulay, Dale Chihuly, Gus Van Sant, Toots Zynsky, and Jenny Holzer. </p>
<p>The MacArthur Foundation clearly doesn't think there is a lack of creative spark at RISD, since 8 RISD alumni have received its "genius" awards over the past ten years -- including an unprecedented 4 of the 25 awards given out in 2006.</p>
<p>Yo-Yo Ma also thinks highly of RISD since his Silk Road Project has had an annual residency there for many years.</p>
<p>And if the school is so bad, how was it able to attract a superstar like John Maeda to be its new president?</p>
<p>You're certainly are entitled to your opinion of RISD, but obviously there are many others who do not share your opinion and do hold RISD in high esteem. I've given just a few examples.</p>
<p>As for the people you saw leaving courses "because of the incredible coldness," they are a very, very small minority, since RISD has a retention rate of 94% (after the admittedly grueling foundation year) and an overall graduation rate of 90%, which is 15 - 20% higher than the graduation rates at other independent art schools.</p>
<p>Yes, I do think RISD is a good art/design school, but I am the first to admit that it's certainly not a good fit for everyone. RISD is very much like a boot camp, especially freshman year. It takes a passion about the work, an ability to keep going on very little sleep, and lots of creativity to survive it. I know that I could never do it, but I do admire those who make it through.</p>
<p>All right, I will fight and won't back down.</p>
<p>worried_mom
you can pat and rub your own kid's back all you want but how bout apologizing to anymator kid here for embarrassing him/her front of entire community eh?</p>
<p>Bears and dogs, why do you keep attacking me every time I post? CC is supposed to be a place for civil discussion and sharing of information. Clearly you are singling me out, since you don’t even bother to respond to posters who clearly dispute what you have said (like tect).</p>
<p>Since the previous posting from Jabberwocky was about RISD programs and students, I replied with some information about RISD's graduates. I specifically acknowledged that everyone is entitled to their own opinion and not everyone would agree with me. I will also point out that not once did I mention my own children in any of these posts – but you dragged them in just to make this a personal attack on me. </p>
<p>As for referring back to AnyMator, I thought that issue was over and done with. I don’t think I “embarrassed” AnyMator by stating a fact, and he didn’t seem to have a problem with me – just you. And I did say I was sorry to you, even though I didn’t know why you were so offended. Now I see that you are just a very bitter person.</p>
<p>I’m not going to sink to your level and enter into a “fight” with you. I will just ignore you from now on and will not bother to respond to your hateful comments.</p>
<p>Jabber, while there is a parallel between work load and creativity, it is the exact opposite of what you suggest. See: "The Creative Habit" by Twyla Tharp. Every artist and designer who is successful got that way because of hard work in developing their vision. You think every successful artist got that way because of PURE TALENT? That is laughable. The more an artist questions and become engrossed in what they are doing, indeed the more they work, the clearer and more articulate their vision becomes. What you are suggesting is that visionaries in every creative discipline are just born, and do not work. Talent and passion give a student an inclination towards working (being a "workaholic") very hard at something they love. It's simple: productivity breeds creativity.</p>
<p>Furthermore, your degradation of Shepard Fairy's and Seth Macfarlane's work means nothing. What is Harvard producing - a few english teachers and guys who push papers? What is MIT producing - people who type numbers into computers? If you want to degrade art, you shouldn't be an artist. And just for the record, RISD's list of distinguished alumni is pretty long. </p>
<p>Bears and dogs, you only come off like you have something to prove. I'm not sure why you are so hostile towards RISD, and I don't really care, but it would be more helpful to prospective students if you stayed objective in your observations, rather than snide.</p>
<p>And you know, if you want to call worried_mom's objective defense of RISD a pat on her child's back, so what if it is? She is proud of her child, as she should be - no matter where they are in school. Are you only downing RISD to feel better about your child's school?</p>
<p>At least she is picking on someone her own mental age group.
It’s not only RISD, It is art school in general that I am in doubt. I could say same thing to Cooper, SAIC, MICA, SVA Purchase and sort of said already, just that RISD people are extremely touchy.
I should really quit now. Bye</p>
<p>Oh, one last thing, you are the one offered posting that your kid spends whatever amount for ID in other thread otherweise I wouldn’t have known you are RISD mom.
I don’t bother dig up someone’s past posts to “share” like you did for the poor med girl. You call that I am the mean one?</p>
<p>I had my doubts about art school too, believe me. However, I am saying that once art school is experienced for the amount of work and critical thinking that it entails, those doubts will be removed. Consider the vast expanse of art school graduates versus the tiny niche you have dealt with and thusly draw your conclusions based on. </p>
<p>I'm not touchy about art school or RISD - I told you I don't care what your individual problems are with RISD. I am touchy, however, about the fact that you are spewing generalized, ill-reasoned and downright ignorant information about art school to students trying to decide if it's for them. That is all.</p>
<p>Why are you working today?
If you are a student, you should be home sleeping in or hanging out, even if you are an adult arent there better things to do?
I write em because that what I saw/ asked and gotten answered to/ touched/ ate/ stepped upon/ smelled/ felt in schools that would be good to know if someone wants to know anything, everything, especially something really bad that could happen to you if you go there without knowing and not careful about it (i.e. exacto knife)</p>
<p>Well, assuming you are young student, during vacations hanging with old friends in college hoodies, have you ever regret not going to University or LAC I am sure you had choices over?
Have you ever unconsciously rationalized your choice just because?
Objectivity is backward mind maintenance system to most people.
RISD people happened to have high voltage of that, is all.
I like them though believe or not, they are more raw and human and very very interesting. Otherwise I wont be reading and writing here for its astronomical reach for my kid let alone my pocketbook, besides he couldnt care less anyway any longer after some epiphany art experience.
Anyhow, have a nice holiday. You write beautifully by the way.</p>