Rolling Stone article on sexual assault at UVa

<p>For anyone who is interested, today’s BOV meeting is available online: </p>

<p><a href=“http://www.nbc29.com/category/175730/live-stream-landing-page”>http://www.nbc29.com/category/175730/live-stream-landing-page&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Not seeing anything yet, but I’m assuming they will join it as soon as it’s available. </p>

<p>Thanks sabaray. I am watching it thanks to your info.</p>

<p>Her friends didn’t seem to care that their friend could have contracted a sexually transmitted disease and that she needed medical intervention. If your buddy gets cut up in a fight you take him to the doc, right? She didn’t need to report the crime if she didn’t wish to–but she DID need medical help. No doubt about it. Even high-school freshmen know about STDs. </p>

<p>The BOV has just unanimously passed a zero tolerance policy for sexual assault, per Coy Barefoot and the Cav Daily. If anyone finds a link to the policy, please post it. Expulsion is the rule going forward. </p>

<p>I just heard a great Coy Barefoot interview of a 2009 graduate who was a victim of rape her first year in 2004. Don’t know if CC will allow the link, but it is on the insidecville website. Though the young woman went through a terrible ordeal, and had plenty of criticism for various aspects of her case, she does not fit the prevailing narrative that UVa administrators are uncaring and that frats are allowed to run wild. It was heartening to hear that her friends, RA, police, and university deans were supportive of her and helped gain a conviction (though for a lesser sexual misconduct charge), 3-year suspension and fraternity house shuttered. She is quite clear in noting changes in policies that ocurred in 2011 that would have helped her case, and in suggesting more improvements. I applaud the kind of journalism that allows such an honest, first person account.</p>

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Thanks for posting this. The comments on the article are illuminating. </p>

<p>Hope they investigate, arrest and prosecute the bums who did this. Applications should screen out these immoral beasts. why dont colleges or the common app ask “How many times do you go to church each month?”</p>

<p>With all of the competition to get into some of these places they do seem to be not so good at picking winners.</p>

<p>Another piece in the NYT today.</p>

<p>Not sure who the poster was who said they never heard the Rugby Road song when they were at UVa, but apparently the marching band played it till 2010 and the Glee Club performed it until last week.</p>

<p><a href=“University of Virginia Officials Vow to Combat Campus Rape Problem - The New York Times”>University of Virginia Officials Vow to Combat Campus Rape Problem - The New York Times;

<p>^^^^^^@proudfather…Seriously? Asking if an applicant goes to church?!? That will certainly solve the problem. Look how it has helped the Catholic church.</p>

<p>@Sally, I am an alum and current parent and the only part of that song I ever heard (prior to it appearing in Rolling Stone) was the chorus, “I think we need another drink…” The chorus was played at some football games in my day, but if the Pep Band played the rest of the song (which I honestly don’t recall), no one was singing the lyrics. It is entirely possible to make it through UVA without ever hearing it sung in its entirety. </p>

<p>@oldUVAgrad, my sister is a 1992 graduate - never heard those lyrics. D graduated in 2013 - not familiar with the RS lyrics either. The song may have been performed but not in the RS entirety. </p>

<p>Hmmm. How many times do you go to church? Are you kidding? What if you’re a lapsed Catholic who never goes to church? Does that place the otherwise well-qualified applicant at the end of the double-secret second waitlist that never gets touched? Good grief. Religious affiliation and church attendance aren’t necessarily indicative of a strong moral character. </p>

<p>And let us not forget UVA is a public institution! </p>

<p>On another note, does anyone know of a link to video of the entire BOV meeting from yesterday? </p>

<p>I don’t see it yet, but they post video of their meetings held in the Board Room on this page. I’d check back there. </p>

<p><a href=“http://www.virginia.edu/bov/videos.html”>http://www.virginia.edu/bov/videos.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>^^^^@sabaray…exactly the point I was trying to make about the Catholic church. The news is full of Catholic priests who engage in sexual abuse. Obviously, they go to church and I’m sure some of them applied to UVa.</p>

<p>D never would have been accepted if you had to demonstrate church attendance. Or maybe only men would have to show that. That shouldn’t be a problem, should it, requiring only men to demonstrate their good moral character? Let’s just start off assuming all men are rapists or potential rapists - make them prove they’re not. :wink: </p>

<p>Better yet, UVa could go private and become an all girls school :wink: . I’m not trying to make light of this very serious matter…just trying to show the absurdity of @proudfather’s suggestion.</p>

<p>No, me either, robertr. It’s just very difficult to reconcile what’s described in that article with D’s experience there. I will be following this closely. </p>

<p>The point isn’t that every single person on campus knows the lyrics to that song. It’s that it is embedded in the UVa tradition for a sizable part of the student body. And what about the mural in Old Cabell Hall that depicts, among other things:</p>

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<p><a href=“Signs of Rape Culture at UVA”>Signs of Rape Culture at UVA;

<p>Does anyone actually find this funny? Apparently the mural is featured prominently on tours…sorry but that is where I’d grab my kid and head back to our car.</p>

<p>There are literally thousands of students who have had a positive experience at UVa. But, none of that matters if what happened to Jackie goes unpunished. That’s about to change. If Chief Longo is on the case, you can be sure he will take action. Those seven boys should be quaking in thier boots right now. </p>