<p>Are these schools good schools?</p>
<p>How are they in chemical engineering?
and how expensive are they?
Please give me some advice!</p>
<p>Rose Hulman is an excellent school. The school is primarily engineering, and they are strong in all their concentrations but (if you put stock in USNWR), Rose is number one in Chemical in its class.
One of the biggest drawbacks is the location. Terre Haute is not a beautiful city, though there are 3 colleges in the town. R-H students tend to live in a bubble. Harvey Mudd has the consortium so it can feel bigger, and CA has better weather than Indiana. R-H does work hard to find opportunities for its students and it bosts a great career center. I know many kids that go there each year (including my friends from high school) and I have never heard of a person that didn’t have multiple job offers upon graduation.
Financial aid can be described as hit or miss. In some cases, I saw plenty of aid and kids with similar stats had primarily loans.
I always say apply to several schools and check out the financial aid packages.</p>
<p>Studying engineering at a campus like this is intense. RHIT is 80% guys and is not within walking or biking distance of anything at all, unless you count farms. Tons of homework and long hours studying. It all pays off a graduation, though. No need to go on to grad school to get a good job. nearly everyone goes straight to work.</p>
<p>Both schools are excellent engineering schools.</p>
<p>Both are expensive…</p>
<p>HMU …Cost of Attendance…over $50k…meets full demonstrated need.</p>
<p>RH…COA…$50k…does not meet full need.</p>
<p>If you’re concerned about cost…</p>
<p>1) Find out how much your parents will pay</p>
<p>2) Find out what their expected contribution will be.</p>
<p>If you have a non-custodial parent, then his family’s income may also be considered.</p>
<p>If your family’s expected contribution is larger than they can pay, then neither school may be affordable. </p>
<p>And, if RH gives you an unaffordable gap, that school also won’t be affordable.</p>
<p>What is your financial situation? </p>
<p>What are your stats?</p>
<p>Well i’m currently living with my uncle and aunt, though my dad lives in Korea.
My dad makes less than 20,000 dollars a year so money is a big issue for me.</p>
<p>And my guardians are professors and they are fairly wealthy. But i’m not getting any money from them. would that still matter?</p>
<p>Also, are these schools better than cooper union at engineering?</p>
<p>Rose-Hulman is very similar to Harvey Mudd, and both are great schools. I don’t know much about Cooper Union except that it’s free tuition and only offers housing for one year; I think both Mudd and RHIT have better reputations.</p>
<p>Similarities between Mudd and Rose-Hulman:</p>
<p>[ul][<em>]Both schools are small tech-focused schools with an emphasis on humanities classes as well. They both have engineering majors, other math/science majors, and no humanities majors.
[</em>]My son has visited both schools, and says both have happy students and caring teachers.
[<em>]Both have pretty much enough housing for all four years.
[</em>]Both have a skewed gender ratio - except Harvey Mudd, for the first time this year, tipped it slightly PAST even to female.
[li]Both have other schools nearby where you can cross-register and find more girls.[/li][/ul]</p>
<p>Differences: </p>
<p>[ul][<em>]Rose-Hulman has recently always had the #1 spot in USNWR for engineering schools without PhD. Mudd often shares the #1 spot with them.
[</em>]Mudd students have a higher average SAT scores.
[<em>]Mudd intro classes are presumably harder, since they accept little or no AP credit, and Rose-Hulman accepts more AP credit.
[</em>]Rose-Hulman has engineering degrees with flavors (EE, ChemE, etc.) and Mudd has only an “engineering” degree. (Both have CS and other sciences)
[<em>]Mudd gets more qualified applicants than they can handle and has to turn away qualified applicants. I THINK Rose-Hulman doesn’t typically turn away qualified applicants.
[</em>]Mudd meets full demonstrated need, and for the most part Rose-Hulman can’t provide as many need-based grants.
[<em>]Rose-Hulman provides more merit-based grants.
[</em>]Both have hands-on classes and the opportunity for research and internship. However, I don’t know if research/internship is GUARANTEED at Rose-Hulman, and it is at Mudd (for the senior thesis/Clinic).[/ul]</p>
<p>Oh dang… that is tough. thank you for all you information!!!</p>
<p>I could be wrong, but I think legal guardians’ income is used for FAFSA.</p>
<p>With all due respect to US News and GeekMom, I think that Cooper Union has a much better reputation than Rose-Hulman, particularly because of the caliber of the students who go there and it’s brutal curriculum. Rose-Hulman admits 70% of it’s applicants, and Cooper Union admits 7% of it’s applicants. </p>
<p>Harvey Mudd and Cooper Union would be a more interesting comparison.</p>
<p>Legal guardians’ income is NOT used for FAFSA…only parents’ income can be used.</p>
<p>However, if your relatives are your LEGAL guardians, then you’ll be considered independent.</p>
<p>If your relatives are not your legal guardians, you should try to make them so. If not, then your dad’s income will be used. Either way, your EFC should be 0. Do you have a mother?</p>
<p>You need to go to a school that meets 100% of need, since you won’t have funds to pay for any gaps.</p>
<p>What are your stats?</p>
<p>What state are you in? If you are a California resident, then you need to apply to several UCs as well because they do a good job of meeting need for 0 EFC students.</p>
<p>Thanks for clearing that up!</p>
<p>I have to disagree with the lack of prestige for Rose Hulman. People that hire engineers know it is a top school. It has been #1 for 10 years as the top engineering school that only offers a bachelors. The problem that it has had for years is that it is small, in the middle of nowhere and was for most of its existence, an all-male school. The selectivity rating is a little skewed. Because it is only for potential engineers, it doesn’t get a lot of unqualified applicants. People have to want to go there. If more people from outside the Midwest would look past the location, I am sure that it would have higher selectivity. But, most importantly, those that attend BECOME excellent engineers.</p>
<p>@RockerDad - thanks. I should have stuck with my canned and informed comparison between Mudd and Rose-Hulman and left my guesswork out of it! :D</p>
<p>What is best for International Student? Is there separate financial aid for international students?</p>