<p>I wouldn't mind staying an extra year if I could get into the B-School (applied frosh year, rejected). However, my cumulative GPA is going to be a 3.2 ish after this semester (fall 08 semester). Anyone think I even stand a chance? And would admissions look favorably upon my soph standing (technically I'm a junior if you go purely by credits)? ECs are ever so slightly above average, but nothing to brag about. Basically, is it even worth wasting my time applying considering the avg GPA is a 3.65 for B-School or should I just forget about it and keep going on my route of finance math/econ major and graduate in 3-4 years instead of dual degree'ing and graduating in 5?</p>
<p>uhh you should still try... no harm, right?</p>
<p>look at it this way: if they admit someone with a 4.0, then they also admit someone with a 3.2 so the avg is 3.6. it also depends, i think, what grades you got in econ/math more so than humanities.</p>
<p>unless you're really poor and the application fee is a big issue, you should try, because who knows? maybe you'll get in.</p>
<p>You will be much better off if you major in Econ as the major firms are suffering from the economy and have changed their views regarding applicants from business schools. In addition, Ross works the students and their GPA's suffer. If you major in econ, you are sure to graduate with a better GPA and many firms do NOT regard Ross as better than a Boston College, Delaware, etc. THe GPA is crucial and a firm will now hire a student with a 3.9 GPA in Liberal arts instead of a 3.5 in ROSS. THe choice is yours!</p>
<p>NanZ are you on crack? A degree from Ross ****s on every other major at Michigan.</p>
<p>It is true that Ross students at Michigan are regarded as very intelligent, hardworking, etc. When you graduate from ross, you better have an excellent GPA otherwise you are on par with every other competitive school that isn't an ivy. Many of the best recruiters now want a liberal arts backround and are turned off to business. It makes sense to enjoy school, major in Econ and graduate in the top of your class. THis is what really gets you the top job. An average student in Ross will not be as successful as a top Econ student as Michigan.</p>
<p>I don't know enough to get into the merits of business vs. econ, but I'd have to guess that going into the future, it will be more the math / sciences / engineering degrees in demand. Business school might have been a ticket to a good job on Wall Street in the past, but those days are over. Even when the economy turns, firms are going to have to be much more cautious (they'll be required to be...)</p>
<p>Businesss, you'd probably reconsider your comment talking to some current juniors / seniors in the business school who can't find jobs. One of my roommates (BBA junior) has a 3.94 and can't find an internship. And he's not even interested in Wall Street. He's been trying EY, Deloitte, etc.</p>
<p>I'd guess from your screen name and comment that you are looking to do investment banking. Best of luck with that.</p>
<p>lol nanz, name a company thinks BC or Delaware is better than Ross. </p>
<p>As for business students having trouble finding jobs lately, it's more a function of the jobs they are applying to than their major. Think about it.</p>
<p>And also, you guys put waaay too much weight on GPA. For top jobs it generally serves as a cutoff, not a dealbreaker.</p>
<p>But to answer the OP, yeah your chances aren't good but it is definitely worth applying.</p>
<p>nanz... please.
i have a hard time believing anything you are saying. do you have anything to back it up with?</p>
<p>nanz...how does your friend like the bschool? Does he find the kids in it annoying?</p>
<p>The kids in the business school are highly competitive and very nerdy for the most part. If you are going to get an MBA or go possibly to law school, then major in ECON/MATH etc. not business. You will need a great GPA and the fact that you attended Ross will not really matter in the schools decison to accept you. On another note, In this economy you will need a great GPA to get your foot in the door in any respectable business field. People living in Michigan or students attending Michigan know that Ross is a great business school but once you leave Michigan, most people and companies do not know how much harder Ross is or understand the caliber of student in Ross versus any other major in Michigan.</p>
<p>Nanz, explain why Goldman has reserved 100 interview spots at Ross this year, and hasn't posted a job on the LSA career center.</p>
<p>Sorry to dissapoint you but it is common knowledge that in order to get a job at Goldman you must be the very top student at a school or someone with connections in the firm. I will be the first to congradulate you when you secure the job!!! Good luck and keep dreaming.</p>
<p>You missed the point. Try again.</p>
<p>nanz, you have no idea what you are talking about, so you should probably just stop.</p>
<p>Answer me this, Did Ross secure a job or an internship for you? Many of the students who had great internships or jobs last year received them on their own. I don't mean to offend you but you should understand the world we live in and know that getting a job involves being the highest caliber candidate as well as having the right connections. If you don't have connections you better have a great GPA!!</p>
<p>i'd rather not get too specific as to my work experience so as to preserve some degree of anonymity, but yes, i probably would not have been able to have the opportunities i have had if i was only in lsa.</p>
<p>"Many of the students who had great internships or jobs last year received them on their own" - false, and you have nothing to support it. Pretty much all of the top firms recruit on campus (except maybe a few buy-side firms which only do harvard/wharton), and if you are going to get a job at one of these firms, it would be through on-campus recruiting. </p>
<p>also, the ross alumni network is amazingly influential and amazingly loyal. that certainly helps with the off-campus search.</p>
<p>finally, i'm not really sure how any of this is relevant to the op. Your whole argument is that its better to get a high gpa lsa than a mediocre gpa ross. Dude, the op has a 3.2 in lsa. No offense to him, but if he gets in, he really has nowhere to go but up in ross.</p>
<p>1.) Nanz has no idea what he's talking about. While getting a job/internship depends mostly on the candidate, being in Ross is a huge advantage over LSA from a recruiting perspective. When recruiters come to Michigan, they go to either CoE or Ross.</p>
<p>2.) OP should apply to Ross. He probably won't get in given his 3.2 GPA, but if he does then he has a great opportunity. Otherwise, he should go with Financial Math, Econ, or Computer Science in LSA.</p>