<p>I just got my formal admission let to the Ross School of Business for 2011. I was preferred admit, so don't know if ours go out the same time as regular admission.</p>
<p>But for those who got accepted regular, I'm interested in knowing what your stats are. I know we had an extra large PA class this past year (over 100, though according to the councillor apparently 12% of PA's don't meet admission requirements for Ross), so I'm curious as to whether that increases stats and selectivity from last year (or not).</p>
<p>I’m starting to wish I would have put in my transfer papers… I didn’t get in. </p>
<p>GPA: 3.9
Math 115: A
Econ 101: A
English 125: A</p>
<p>I am also quite involved in a fraternity. Does anyone else feel like getting in was a complete crapshoot??</p>
<p>@iamsocool: I know personally I am currently trying to figure that out. It doesn’t appear to be a clear cut as the admissions people try to make it sound.</p>
<p>I don’t think you guys should worry that much. With such a high gpa, a degree from Michigan will open a lot of doors. Anyways, you can still take like 20 credits at Ross without being a BBA student, or you could pursue an MBA later to get more business knowledge.</p>
<p>I joined a fraternity and that was my main extracurricular. It took more time per week than if i did a bunch of smaller things added up together. And i took a large sampling of classes: Econ 101 & 102, Math 115, Bio 120, Aoss 101, Poli Sci 160, Spanish 275, and English 125. </p>
<p>@infinit: I’m not necessarily concerned with my future. I am very confident that I can achieve what I would like to achieve in the business world without the hailed BBA degree. Frankly, I believe that an economics degree will allow most people to graduate with more technical business knowledge than a BBA degree from Ross. However, I have a hard time believing that there were 320 more qualified applicants than myself and foucaultlover. I know grades aren’t everything, but I am starting to seriously question the admissions systems and the sort of politics and bureaucracy that occur there.</p>
<p>I always thought it was weird you could get an MBA and not worry about a BBA. I honestly don’t see the point if you can get an MBA later, but that’s just me.</p>
<p>Yes md3, its a conspiracy. Maybe the difficulty of your courses mattered? idk</p>
<p>I think most people join the BBA program because of the recruitment that you can get from it. I mean, yeah you can get an MBA later (and you still might have to), but if you are already in the industry (IB, Consulting, etc.) you definitely have contacts and it will make the transition into post MBA career easier rather than having to build a network again.</p>
<p>Also, I know some of the top firms (which recruit at Ross and probably to a lesser extent umich in general) pay for MBA. Ex: A person I know who did his undergrad here went to Bain Consulting, and now he’s going to Harvard Business for his MBA fully paid by Bain. So I guess that goes back to recruiting too, though as I said before it’s not at all limited to Ross (but perhaps more likely?)</p>
<p>Nonetheless, I’m sure you guys will do fine with your GPA’s. You’ll just have to network a bit more than Ross people. Just ask a friend in Ross for the corporate presentation event calendar and come to the corporate presentations and put your name out there. No one checks if you’re in Ross or not. In fact, when I went to events last year (for kicks to check it out), there were tons of engineers and econ/math majors (these were for major Bulge Bracket IB and S&T).</p>
<p>MLDWoody, there are certain industries that are just really hard to break in post-MBA (Venture Capital and Private Equity to name the primary examples). To get into those industries one usually needs an investment banking or strategy consulting background first. At Michigan, I guess it’s easier to get those jobs as a BBA student, but I guess it wouldn’t be too difficult to get those jobs as a econ/hard science/engineering major either provided the GPA was high enough.</p>
<p>I think greatest benefit a BBA can provide is if you can some how skimp out of getting an MBA. While I’m guessing this is still fairly contested, but there are a great number of people who think the MBA is a pretty expensive degree and for certain positions doesn’t add enough value to be worth the cost. It really has to do with what job and which person you talk to.</p>
<p>I thought Bulge Bracket IBs give priority to BBA. Someone told me that IB recruiters consider hard science and engineering too theoritical. Really confused.</p>
<p>EEatPurdue, I don’t think it really matters. While I wouldn’t know from personal experience, I know people who have worked in the industry, and from what they say is that it’s not rocket science. Most BBs have pretty good training programs as well, to teach you anything you need to know. Besides, many of the other targets for BBs don’t even have undergraduate business programs.</p>
<p>@MLDWoody: It’s easy to sit and generalize what I’m saying as a conspiracy. By the way, good attempt at a clever comment. All I was saying is that it doesn’t appear to be as exact as the admissions office and the directors say at all the informational sessions they encourage students to attend. It appears as though there are other things that they aren’t saying at those sessions that they are looking for. Or they aren’t stressing out of those things what they are looking for the most. Further, its possible with all those numbers that you can get screwed by the numbers. Think about it, out of 320 accepted students they probably take equal numbers of men and women and more men definitely apply. So it becomes harder as a man to get in. You can yell at me about not being politically correct, but think about it. You know it is right.</p>
<p>Well a simple look at the data already available to us indicates that only 33% of last years BBA class was female. I’m sure there is some advantage if you’re women, but I don’t think it’s a large margin. Md3, I’m sure what happened is a simple case of the admissions committee ****ing up. It happens all the time. It just sucks when you’re on the receiving end.</p>
<p>I think Ross admission is the same as College admission in general. High GPA is only the minimum requirement, but it’s your essay and the extracurriculars that gets you in.</p>
<p>It is true that Ross places more people into BB IB than Engineering. But that has a lot to do with the fact that many more Ross students are interested in IB than Engineering students. When I was in engineering first year, many of the people wanted to work for top companies in their field (think Google for EECS, and Boeing for Aero, etc.). Ross just places a lot of people because that’s where the interest for the field tends to be, and so top recruiters come there.</p>
<p>As for the fit thing with engineers being too technical, maybe, but if you can network well then I think that it will be a very minor issue. I know quite a few engineers that have gotten internships at BB. Also, for S&T, I think engineers are as much recruited as Ross if not more because of their quantitative skills.</p>
<p>Bottom line: If you have a good GPA in Engineering and can network, then you’ll get interviews for banking.</p>