Top 10 US Universities
1 Harvard University
2 California Institute of Technology
3 University of Chicago
4 Stanford University
5 Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)
6 Columbia University
7 Princeton University
8 University of Pennsylvania
9 Yale University
10 Washington University in St. Louis
I was going to say “fake news” until I saw #2.
Yes. perfectly consistent with world university rankings and USNWR at 3 as well.
They must be factoring in both undergrad and grad/PhD levels, given how low Princeton and Yale are. UChicago at #3 in the USNews national U ranking is for undergrad only.
and I agree re Cal Tech. By far on a per captia basis , the top applied science and engineering and natural science school there is.
@prezbucky I agree. But I think that is in fact the correct approach, You cannot separate undergraduate and graduate programs as major world class university. The two are synergistic.
I think it’s 50/50: yes there is some bleed from grad to undergrad, but some schools put more into the undergrad experience. If grad programs are ranked mostly on research, the pro is there might be some research opportunities for undergrads; but the cons could be that the best profs will be working with grads and the school as a whole might cater more to the grads than to the undergrads. Every program requires attention.
Princeton and, to a lesser degree, Yale, spend less time and money on their relatively fewer grad students which necessarily means that more time and resources are dedicated to undergrads.
@prezbucky an interesting issue. Where to draw the line. A place like Dartmouth really is the most prominent LAC in the country but tries to position itself more and more as a university.
Yeah, Dartmouth, Brown and Princeton seem especially geared toward the undergrad experience (among private universities). Conversely, Harvard is like one-third undergrad and Columbia is even less. Most of the tippy-tops are less than 50% undergrad.
I forget the user but he is not too happy with Dartmouth’s attempt to remake itself as more of a research U, rather than sticking to its “college” roots.
Regarding quality of undergrad education, they’re all teaching the same thing (per subject…), pretty much, so the differences in academic quality come mainly from the sizes of the classes, interaction with profs, the level of classroom discussion (which has to do with the level and interest of the students…), and rigor, imo.
Rankings created by former Russian Olympic figure skating judges?
@saillakeerie Now now, let’s not be prejudiced against all things Russia . Their rankings have been around for several years. Obviously they got it right – Harvard is on top.
I was going to say they hacked into other current ratings systems . . .
Wow! We get another ranking to argue about! Where is Duke, Duke should be on that list. EVERYONE knows that.
And no Berkeley? That is discriminatory against state schools. There should be an investigation!
Wash U is interesting. Certainly great at pre med and undergrad business. But certainly not ahead of JHU, Berkeley and NU. Let the arguments fly …
As a proud UChicago alum, all I can say is…
I don’t trust anything from the Russian media or from any of its institutions these days. And looking at those rankings, I trust them even less. Imperial College London 4th in the world? Boston University 27th? UC Berkeley all the way down at 48th? I like it when my school gets a high ranking, but this ranking is dog poop.
I think the weight is 40% teaching, 40% research, 10% international focus ( to help the European universities) and 10% financial stability. Berkeley lost on the teaching and financial stability pieces, I guess
Imperial Colllge has been right up there in recent other world university rankings.
Berkeley is a financial disaster. Teaching is a huge problem due to class size and they cannot retain top talent. Research is still top of the line. Hence the low rank. Dosvidanya
@ThankYouforHelp Ranking Imperial 4th is high IMO, but there’s definitely a case to be made for ranking it ahead of BU/Cal. In the UK, Imperial is second only to Oxbridge in STEM subjects - nothing to sneeze at.
McGill is 29 and UToronto is 54! There is more validity to this ranking than I first thought. 8-}