<p>Anyone else applying to the Rutgers BA/MD program in Newark?</p>
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<p>...and is it just me...or is this website really intimidating?</p>
<p>this website is basically a "brag site" of some pretty competitive students
and they like to make themselves feel better by boasting about their numerous accomplishments and such.
So it's ok if
you find it
intimidating,
BUT
it does have great information regarding colleges/programs/ so that's a reason to stay on</p>
<p>btw- i am NOT applying to the rutgers ba/md program because newark is not the best place to live...</p>
<p>haha, strangequark. you are totally right!</p>
<p>i interviewed for the tcnj/njms program at Newark last year and the area was super ghetto/bad. the medical school is located in an extremely shady neighborhood...</p>
<p>well thats newark...
but imagine the crazy things you could see.
all the crazy wounds and trauma.
whoo!
=P</p>
<p>It's not so unusual for a University hospital to be in the inner city area surrounded by low socioeconomic strata of the general population. Most med schools are also located in inner city areas.</p>
<p>"It's not so unusual for a University hospital to be in the inner city area surrounded by low socioeconomic strata of the general population. Most med schools are also located in inner city areas."</p>
<p>Pharmagal, you're just saying that because your son is going to NJMS. If he wasn't, you'd also admit how NJMS is in one of the most dangerous inner city areas of all U.S. cities. Newark is nicknamed the "murder capital" of the U.S. for a reason. It is a myth about how all medical school hospitals are in inner cities. Jefferson Medical College's university hospital in Philadelphia is in a really nice part of downtown Philadelphia (the same is true for Temple and Drexel's university hospitals)...NYU and Cornell's Hospitals are also in decent parts of Manhattan.</p>
<p>NJMS is also a mediocre medical school where politics take a priority over research funding and education. I suggest applying to another combined degree program that does not require MCAT's (NJMS requires it but does not ask for a minimum score) and that has a better ranked medical school in a safer area and that is not in the "Armpit" of America.</p>
<p>Northwestern HPME and Rice/Baylor are the best! Also awesome locations.</p>
<p>In response to your statement that 'NJMS is a mediocre medical school' - </p>
<p>As far as medical schools are concerned, one should ask themselves whether they want to seek an MD/PhD program or a purely clinical MD degree.</p>
<p>I agree that if you are a Research oriented person, NJMS is probably not the best place for you. You ought to go by US News ratings for research. Do note however, that US News rates medical schools by the research opportunities and not by "clinical experience".</p>
<p>I would read up posts by other medical students or doctors (Veterans on this board IMO) such as BDM, Bluedevilmike, or Norcalguy or My $0.02 who have repeatedly mentioned that US News is not a valid rating if you are interested in a 'clinical' degree and if you are not interested in pursuing research. So, when you call any US certified medical school mediocre - I suggest you read up their prior posts about clinical ratings.</p>
<p>My post above in no way restricts OP from applying to Rice or NW. Do note however that if any of you are considering applying to UMDNJ, and if you are a State resident, your chances of being accepted are much higher within NJ schools than outside of NJ.</p>
<p>Total cost involved and opportunity-</p>
<p>Most states, as a rule accept a greater % of students within the state than OOS.
Also note that as a state resident your tuition and fees will be far lower than as an OOS applicant.</p>
<p>NJMS's current total tuition is around $25,000. Add to this about $15,000 for room and board + $3000 for books. Your total cost of education if you were to start medical school today, would be around $43,000/year. Rutgers and TCNJ provide 100% ride to students that are accepted in their 7 year NJMS program. So, your parents will shell out minimal costs for your undergraduate education.</p>
<p>Rice and Northwestern are absolutely great places to apply. However, their cost of undergraduate education is about $40,000-45,000 for each year of undergrad and for NW, med schools is ~ $52,000 today. By the time you graduate with your BS and start med school, expect Northwestern's med school education to be around $60,000 per year.</p>
<p>So, if you plan to go ear deep in debt or have very wealthy parents whose 401ks are not dwindled down in these difficult economic times and are 100% sure about their security for the next 8 years, go for Northwestern and Rice! You might be very few lucky ones amongst most students these days who can be so sure of their economic spiggets for next 8 years! </p>
<p>As a parent, I would much rather keep aside the extra $200-250,000 to give my son as a gift toward a Clinic he may one day want to open.</p>
<p>NJMS - COA</p>
<p>It's not unusual for good med schools to be located in crappy neighborhoods. Penn Med is located in West Philly. WashU is located in St. Louis. Columbia College of P&S is located near Washington Heights. Suny Downstate is located in Brooklyn. Hopkins is located in a shady part of Baltimore. Those are just the ones I saw in person.</p>
<p>In fact, when I interviewed at Northwestern for med school, the tour guide was somewhat apologetic about the fact the med school is located in the nice part of Chicago. They treat a lot of "little old ladies with their fur coats and toy poodles" as he put it (in contrast to University of Chicago). The clinical experience is likely to be better at a school/hospital that treats a lot of the indigent population.</p>
<p>Okay, if you want to play the cost game then NJMS might be a decent choice if you live in NJ (aka the "armpit of America") since I believe it is the only medical school there. However, doing MD/PhD at a top rated medical school may be the way to go since 1) most MD/PhD programs pay for most of your medical school tuition, 2) Your chances of getting into a competitive residency (dermatology, ENT, Plastic Surgery, Ophthalmology, Neurosurgery, etc.) will increase if you have gotten a PhD in the field of medicine you plan to practice in, and 3) The quality and prestige of the medical school you are applying from will be considered at least a little bit and make somewhat of a difference when applying for a residency (i.e. Mississippi College of Medicine versus Emory College of Medicine).</p>
<p>Furthermore, I would strongly suggest people on this board to also consider Yale Medical School since their medical school's grading system consists of a rather stress-free and non-cutthroat pass-fail system! </p>
<p>Lastly, college should be a time to enjoy one's self and be able to take classes that you will enjoy or will be useful for life that you will not get to take in medical school such as Economics, Sociology, Speech Writing, etc. I do not think you will get the best college experience in 3 or 2 years dodging bullets at Rutgers Newark. </p>
<p>Brown PLME is a 8 year combined degree program in which its students are not restricted to a certain major.</p>
<p>And if you are not interested in the MD/PhD route there are still certainly plenty of state schools that are just as good if not a whole lot better than NJMS such as Penn State Hershey, UT Southwestern, Michigan State, and those found in California such as UC Irvine, UCLA, and plenty of others.</p>
<p>Contrary to popular belief, you can still go to an Out of State School and also save plenty of money if that school is a public state school (you may pay $30,000 instead of $25,000 or not have to pay any difference).</p>
<p>Lastly, I encourage people on this board to apply to colleges out of state and have new refreshing experiences away from home and gain a degree of independence from their parents. It's a whole lot of fun to finally have some personal space and to experience the world away from home.</p>
<p>Sickofflorida -
You were rejected by UMDNJ! No wonder you hate the school so much!!!</p>
<p>On 5/5/2006 Sickofflorida quoted "If there is anyone who is willing to answer your questions, it will be me. It was my dream to get into Rutger's BA/MD medical program. Everyday of my senior year I constantly thought about it. Although I was interviewed, they did not select me. I guess they really do want NJ residents and maybe they have a certain quota for how many Asians they can accept."</p>
<p>End of story!</p>
<p>Wow Pharmagal! You really have nothing better to do but search the annals of CC for a rebuttal. All I can say in response is at least I am not doing pharmacy (like you) and that I am not a stay-at-home mom like you who has nothing better to do in her spare time but brag about her son.</p>
<p>I never posted the full details of all acceptances and rejections on CC but I like the medical school I am in because it is in a safer area (any other city is safer than Newark and any other city has a better quality of life and better air quality), it never required me to take the MCAT, and I know more graduates from the program who have gotten into top residencies (like ophthalmology) or are in respected positions (like chief resident of Johns Hopkins Medical Center or Professor at Yale Medical School). </p>
<p>Don't bother searching my previous posts to see where I got into because you would never know. I chose to go to Georgetown and made it into their medical school via an early assurance program. I love it there and looking in retrospect I am happy that I did not go to a corruption-ridden school (UMDNJ</a> faces corruption fallout - FierceHealthcare) in the middle of Newark's infamous ghetto. </p>
<p>And lastly, you know why I do not like UMDNJ. Even if I was taken off a waitlist I would not have gone there since I knew a family friend attending NJMS who got her car stolen and whose friend got mugged at gunpoint next to the campus. That's why I didn't even bother sending addition information to the school. And that's why 2 people I knew chose other medical programs over the UMDNJ program...one chose Drexel and another USC Keck (for the better weather).</p>
<p>Even though I got rejected from Drexel Med, Brown PLME, and Northwestern I still like those schools. I don't hold a grudge against schools or people (like you may against me). Have a nice day. : )</p>
<p>SOF,
If Pharmagal is right about you not getting into UMDNJ. You are a troll on UMDNJ thread. You have no business here. Troll is all you are. Nothing you say can change the fact that you were rejected by UMDNJ.</p>
<p>yes, but pharmagal, that was a low blow and uncalled for...</p>
<p>i love bs/md drama lmao.</p>
<p>and i love it when parents post instead of their kids.</p>
<p>lolllllllllllll</p>
<p>yeaa so anyway i applied also..did anyone hear anything from them yet? im getting anxious :)</p>
<p>haha ya i havent heard nythin yet..i wanna kno so bad...</p>
<p>yea i got an email from them saying they are starting interviews in the beginning of January until february..and theres actually 2 interviews, but does anyone know what the interviews consist of?</p>
<p>whoa really...i havent had ny interviews so far and february is almost here...i guess just gotta wait it out..</p>
<p>yuppp..i guess soo :/
but i think they are doing interviews throughout february so we'll have to see
if u hear anething lemme know :)</p>