<p>hi. I am one of the international students in USA and currently i am accepted by Rutgers , BU and Bard college. I m gonna major in economics in my freshman year and i m planning to transfer to bussiness school my second year majoring finance. Rutgers cost of attending is around 40,000 a year which is affordable to my family, but BU's is about 65,000 a year. My parents will live a frugal life if they send me to BU and I dont want that happen. Bard College will offer me scholarship which will cover around 15,000 a year, but as a liberal art college, bard is not really good at bussiness major. I dont know what to do right now and I dont know if Rutgers business school could offer me as many opportunities as BU could. Thanks </p>
<p>Bard has a dual degree program which would more than satisfy your needs if you’re interested in finance: Economics and Finance Program
The Program in Economics and Finance, which grants a bachelor of science in economics and finance and a bachelor of arts in a field other than economics, meets the needs of students who want a broad education in the liberal arts and sciences as they prepare for careers in the financial world, or students pursuing other professions who seek fiscal savvy. <a href=“http://www.bard.edu/academics/programs/programs.php?id=528096&pid=1042”>http://www.bard.edu/academics/programs/programs.php?id=528096&pid=1042</a>
The Levy Economics Institute of Bard College is one of the premiere think-tanks in the world. <a href=“http://www.levyinstitute.org/”>http://www.levyinstitute.org/</a></p>
<p>Does Bard College offer lots of internship opportunities for their finance major students?</p>
<p>Bard is in a very small town in eastern NY state, on the Hudson river. It’s beautiful but isolated. It’s connections with NYC, a couple hours away, are real, however, and summer internships happen there quite often. Rutgers is a big industrial sized campus in a small city in north Jersey. Its connections to NYC and the surrounding cities is clear. People from NJ go there but the rest of us try to avoid it because it’s an ugly city. This is dumb because it offers a fine education. If the money matches, go to Bard. If Rutgers is cheaper, you can do a lot worse than a Rutgers degree and more people will have heard of Rutgers than Bard. BU is just ridiculously expensive. </p>
<p>Rutgers is NJ residents trying to get a degree as inexpensively as they can and then get down to work. It’s a state university for people who think college is a way to improve their financial lot in life and are willing to tolerate large classrooms the first year or two. Bard is hipsters and intellectuals and artists from all over the US who want a pretty hermitage for the opportunity to seriously consider ideas and how to convey them well. Small classes, small dorms, getting to know your teachers and students well. Pretentiousness, oh yeah. Genuine curiosity, you bet.</p>
<p>Bard is not a business school. If your purpose in going to college is just to get a job and make a lot of money, you might very well be happier at Rutgers. If you have an intellectual interest in economics, and are not attending college solely to be recruited for a corporate finance job, then Bard could be terrific. <a href=“http://economics.bard.edu/”>http://economics.bard.edu/</a></p>
<p>If there’s a chance of graduate school, ascertain that Bard can offer you the depth of field in math that will satisfy most grad programs. Some econ grad programs are going to want Linear Algebra and Real Analysis on up and be quite math intensive. Make sure you get at least Calc III at Bard, something not required in the major.</p>
<p>From the Bard Economics requirements page: Preparation for Graduate School</p>
<p>Students preparing for graduate school in economics are encouraged to take advanced theory courses (Econ 301, 302) and to develop their quantitative skills with additional courses such as Introduction to Mathematical Economics (Econ 205), Econometrics (Econ 329), and related courses in mathematics (Linear Algebra, Proofs and Fundamentals, Probability and Statistics).</p>
<p>For students considering a Ph.D. in economics, additional training in mathematics is recommended. Many Ph.D. programs expect knowledge of differential equations, proofs and fundamentals, and real analysis in addition to the coursework recommended.</p>
<p>It should not be a problem taking the requisite math courses at Bard.</p>
<p><a href=“Math Courses”>http://math.bard.edu/courses/</a> indicates that Bard’s math department offers real analysis every year, and has a greater selection of math courses than many other LACs, if you are willing to handle scheduling courses offered once every two years. However, that list seems to be inconsistent with the courses listed in the schedule at <a href=“http://inside.bard.edu/academic/courses/current/”>http://inside.bard.edu/academic/courses/current/</a> (e.g. there is a 329, 363, and 382, but not too many of the others listed).</p>
<p>A pre-PhD economics major at Bard would want to take 141, 142, 213, 241, 261, 328, 329, 335, 361, and perhaps 461 from the math department. From the economics department, courses 100, 201, 202, 205, 229, and 329 would be indicated.</p>
<p>@UCBalumnus - I believe that with planning all the courses can be taken - but yes, not every course is offered every semester. I think that’s pretty common at LAC’s. Sometimes a particular course is only in the fall or spring semester, or offered every two years, or even every four years! This is true of all departments, and was also true at my older son’s college. Which is why it’s always wise to make a plan right from the start. I think a prospective financier should be able to handle that kind of advance planning!</p>
<p>indeed, at midsize unis, too. One cannot plan for faculty sabbaticals, however, or a four-year cycle. No one had taught Bible as Literature in my department for 21 years but it was on the books just the same. Students asked for it, but faculty didn’t want to go there and could not be made to do so. Still, I’m glad Bard is offering these advanced math courses. I wonder if it will mean double majoring in math, or if that’s standard procedure for econ students wanting a phd.</p>
<p>Most economics departments do not require much math to complete an economics bachelor’s degree (usually a semester or year of calculus and a semester of introductory statistics). That is likely because most economics majors are not preparing for PhD study (indeed, at many schools, economics appears to be commonly taken as a substitute for a business major). Someone aiming for PhD study in economics would take additional advanced math as electives, add a second major in math, or have math as his/her primary major supplemented with some economics courses.</p>
<p>I wanna go to a top business school for MSF or MBA after undergraduate school. I have not thought about PhD yet. Should I just go to Bard then if they offer me good scholarship? because they have really great fundamental math and eco courses? Is it gonna prepare me for a decent business grad school?</p>
<p>and thanks for all who helped me. you guys are awesome;)</p>
<p>MBA programs have no specific undergraduate major requirements, but do favor applicants with post-bachelor’s-degree work experience.</p>
<p>For MSF and MFE programs, undergraduate preparation in math, statistics, economics, finance, and accounting is likely to be helpful; check the web sites of these degree programs. Check the undergraduate schools for availability; math, statistics, and economics should be widely available; finance may be available under economics if the school does not have undergraduate business; accounting may only be available under undergraduate business.</p>
<p>@ryanjin1995 - Bard is not like the other two choices you’ve listed. It is going to be a more academic and intellectual experience as an undergrad - which may not be the right fit for you. It is going to be less of a pre-professional experience, and more of a classical academic one. In terms of political thinking, the Levy Institute is on the progressive side of economic thought. I think you might find that Rutgers more suits your desires to have your undergrad experience focus on preparing you for a career in business. I’m not saying that Bard wouldn’t give you the skills you need - but it may be a more rigorous intellectual experience than you’re looking for.</p>
<p>@SpiritManager - your post sounds very condescending, there’s really no need for that</p>
<p>“I dont know if Rutgers business school could offer me as many opportunities as BU could” - If you are interested in a career in finance, I think Rutgers Business School will give you as many opportunities as BU. Its not easy to transfer in but if you’re confident you can maintain a high GPA you’ll be ok. Many top investment banks recruit at the business school as well as many other top-tier financial firms. The internships and jobs are available to students that maintain good grades and know how to interview. One specific example of note - every year Goldman Sachs hires several RBS students.</p>