<p>J'adoube,</p>
<p>That would be great news if that was the case. Think of the admissions process as the airline overbooking process. The admissions office wants 6.7K incoming freshman for 2008. They predict that 67% of the accepted students will enroll, so they give out 10K acceptance letters. They have been pretty accurate with this prediction every year. In the event that 8K students actually enroll, they will most likely make up for it during the next batch of applications. But why is this good? Well, the number one reason is that it lowers the acceptance rate. Let's go to the extreme case where they predicted that 100% of accepted students will actually enroll. If they wanted 6.7K, then they'd only accept 6.7K. From an acceptance rate standpoint, for 2008, 28K applied and 10K got acceptance letters for an acceptance rate of about 36%. If they only gave out 6.7K acceptance letters that would bring the acceptance rate down to 24%!</p>
<p>I tend to stay in the shadows around here, but this time I feel compelled to respond. I too have been "put off" by SSobick's comments. </p>
<p>As a high school drop out, I as very proud of my child’s acceptance to UF as a transfer student from Santa Fe, he is far from a second rate person. He applied for admission as a freshman but did not get in. His stats were in line with accepted students but he was one of the unlucky ones. </p>
<p>SSobick, not everyone comes from a perfect world and as you age you too will learn this. </p>
<p>Happy trails and give your CC student a hug! They are deserving and hard working.</p>
<p>goufgators: forget acceptance rate and yield for the moment.</p>
<p>The problem is where do they stick the extra 1300 students when the budget was cut by $50 million. You could say that the 1000 less transfers they are taking in would be part of that but they still would have 300 more than they expected and still be $50 million short, and that's where Santa Fe comes in.</p>
<p>Yield rate was 67% for the last incoming class. Now that they got rid of Early Admissions the number should lower just a little bit.</p>
<p>the problem with people who think like ssobick is that when i do transfer into UF i will be looked down upon by those who were FTIC simply because i am a CC transfer student. now, i am a very quiet person when it comes to intelligence and i could give 3 *****s whether people think i am inferior because of my transfer but getting treated diff around campus is unacceptable. i will be honest, i am more intelligent and have a more level head than i would say 60% of my classmates this past year, my stats are higher than about 50% who got admitted into UF. why i got rejected, ill never know, and im over it. but the fact remains, not all bright students enter the university at a freshman level.</p>
<p>btw, i wish a UF rep would come and spend just a week with students who apply to the university ( i know this is impossible but its in my imaginary land,lol ) so he/she could see how big of morons some of the people are. just cuz they play 3 sports, are in 5 clubs, and have a good gpa doesnt mean they are going to be successful, but i know, the university has nothing else to base their decision upon except what they see on paper. and some just ******** better than others..lol</p>
<p>"the problem with people who think like ssobick is that when i do transfer into UF i will be looked down upon by those who were FTIC simply because i am a CC transfer student"</p>
<p>I do agree with ssobick , but it doesn't mean that I think that I would look down on someone who got xfer from a CC. Everyone comes from a different background, and you would have to be qualified enough to get into UF.</p>
<p>"the fact remains, not all bright students enter the university at a freshman level"</p>
<p>Of course, nothing is absolute, but it doesn't mean there wasn't any bright students get accepted. There might be a few that are not as qualified as others who got rejected, but that doesn't make them not doing as well in college as others.</p>
<p>I think this thread is heading to a wrong direction. It started with how Santa Fe changes its name, to how people in CC shouldn't be accepted as xfer...</p>
<p>I'd say, yes CC students are as well qualified as any students to enter to UF, but Santa Fe shouldn't be the only one with the that special privilege to UF, since a lot of people don't have enough money to move to Gainesville just to go to a community college. Let's just give everyone an equal chance? :D</p>
<p>^ I agree as well. All UF students are of the highest caliber regardless of how they attained admission.</p>
<p>I am just against the Santa Fe entitlement.</p>
<p>SSobick, the way things are shaping up, there wouldn't be any transfers into UF in 3 years anyway.</p>
<p>^^^lmao. sad but probably true. and shinichi, you call them "special privileges," i call it normal. i am not singling out UF, every state university in florida gives some sort of preference to their local colleges. thats fact, not what i think is right or wrong.</p>
<p>It's probably more of a gentleman's agreement and has worked fine until now. As usual, money woes are changing the status quo and the just end up paying for the sinful.</p>
<p>I think that it is more than just a "gentleman's agreement." Santa Fe is very important to UF since they employ many of their graduate students. This is just one of their many programs: University</a> of Florida Graduate School</p>
<p>Also, UF works together with SFC on many collaborative programs such as:
http.//news.health.ufl.edu/news/story.aspx?ID=3507 and
http.//<a href="http://www.floridatomorrow.ufl.edu/gallery/e_pubs/performing-arts.pdf">www.floridatomorrow.ufl.edu/gallery/e_pubs/performing-arts.pdf</a></p>
<p>SFC is important to UF and there are many reciprocal opportunities for students of both schools like their health care centers and libraries, etc.</p>
<p>Transfer students have been cut across the board in almost all florida state universities as have FTIC admissions. This is a fact of funding. UF has a relationship with SFC and wants to maintain it. This is evidenced by the fact that SFC has only added two 4 year degrees that do NOT compete with UF. This was a deal worked out between the 2 schools!</p>
<p>Also Shinichi and SSobick, you mention kids who can't afford leaving home. Well what about the 50% of SFC local kids who get their AA's? Wouldn't it be nice if the well qualified ones could attend UF while living at home? That is what I did. I went to MDCC and transferred to FIU, all while living at home!</p>
<p>news.health.ufl.edu/news/story.aspx?ID=3507
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<p>Sorry, maybe some of these links work better. I am a technologically challenged mom, LOL!!</p>
<p>Helpful Mom,</p>
<p>I understand your points on the collaboration between UF and SFC. But the fact still remains that UF will eventually cut off all transfers. UF might make some exceptions for some students, but that would be in extreme cases.</p>
<p>I also understand that there are some very legit reasons why many students would want/have to go to a CC first to get their AA before transferring to a university. But, a student who moves to Gainesville to go to SFC can just as easy move there to go to UF (if they were accepted) because the living expenses would be the same -- therefore it can't be for financial reasons. UF is going to require students that want to go there to apply to it like any other student out of high school would.</p>
<p>Something to think about! Now that UF is limiting the number of incoming transfers, do you think there would be less students, especially from those that live outside of Gainesville, wanting to apply to SFC?</p>
<p>I live 3 hours from UF and everyone I know from around here that is attending Santa Fe is there for 2 reasons.
1. They wanted to go to UF and did not get in but think as far as community colleges go they have the best chance of getting in to UF by atttending Santa Fe.
2. They want to be in Gainesville with the whole "gator thing" and close to their UF friends.</p>