SAR human phys. or Boston College?

<p>Hi,
I was accepted into Sargent for human physiology and I was also accepted into Boston College where I am unsure of my major, but it might be Biology if I go there…</p>

<p>I am EXTREMELY torn between these two schools, and I have NO IDEA what to do! First off, does anyone know how the human physiology program is at BU? Is it worth going to that school for, because it really attracted me in applying and BC has nothing like it. </p>

<p>I know that BC is ranked higher and such, but something about BU really attracts me! I don’t know what to do though, and I’m running out of time to decide!!!</p>

<p>So…is BU good for human physiology (I plan on going to dental or medical school)?
or do I go with BC? I really like BU and being in the city and the size and diversity and all of that…I just don’t know what this should come down to…</p>

<p>Can anyone please help? Anything would be appreciated!</p>

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<p>i’m a human phys major, senior now, and have loved the program, and am going to medical school. the human phys major also allows you to find and use an internship for credit. a friend of mine in human phys with me is using her internship for 8 credits and is writing a research paper and getting published; her only academic class in her final semester is neuroanatomy. human phys is very individualized with regards to advisors, etc. they’re all very helpful, and the head of the human phys department is professor schotland who teaches gross anatomy & neuroanatomy, so you interact with her on a personal level and she is a remarkable professor. we also get to work with actual cadavers in gross lab, sheep and human brains and cow eyes and spinal cords in neuro lab (though neuro lab is not conducted nearly as well as gross lab). you will learn more in gross anatomy and cardiopulmonary pathophysiology than you ever thought you could, and not only that, the professors are WONDERFUL! </p>

<p>i can’t tell you much about BC except that i was waitlisted and took my name off bcuz i loved BU and couldn’t care less about BC after experiencing the BU environment. but choose wisely, because whichever one you end up at, you will learn and grow to hate the other school (if you get into the hockey rivalry, of course).</p>

<p>BU…, because we’re better, haha. </p>

<p>But seriously, it seems like BU would be the better school for you. You know what you want to do if you come here and if you change your mind, it’s extremely easy to change majors and schools. If you visited and like the environment, then that’s another reason, especially since BU and BC are quite different and have extremely contrasting atmospheres. I don’t know much about premed/predental since I’m a business major but I’m assuming the fact that BU has a Medical and Dental school might be another benefit.</p>

<p>odin also brings up a good point; being a bu student gives you the perks of having an easier time finding research opportunities at bmc and bu dental. in addition, we also have the bu shuttle that brings you directly into bmc for free every day so you have access to many hospitals.</p>

<p>Thanks Ali for the info. I know very little about Sargent and what I do know is nutrition. This program seems like something pre-meds should really consider.</p>

<p>Why isn’t this better known? </p>

<p>This goes back to a conversation I had with a professor when one of my kids was deciding to go to BU: that the school needs to do a better job of publicity.</p>

<p>Dood, BC has bette campus, better name, better education for the same price almost</p>

<p>Just out of curiosity, what’s your gripe against BU nsmukh? Any comparison of BU vs. another school has you saying the other school is better and to believe you because you’re from boston…, you must really have issues with BU to ■■■■■ this forum all the time encouraging others to choose basically any school over BU.</p>

<p>probably bcuz he’s jealous that he got rejected </p>

<p>lerg, it definitely isn’t well publicized. i transferred to sar for nutrition and then discovered the human phys program that way. the only thing about it is that if you don’t get into med school, there isn’t much you can do with a human phys degree except research or some form of grad school; however it is basically a formidable “real” pre-med program because inyour 1st year of med school, you take: anatomy, biochem, physiology, histology, neuro, immunology, endocrinology, etc. in human phys, you take gross anatomy of the musculoskeletal system, cardiopulmonary pathophysiology, systems physiology, neuroanatomy, biochemistry, cell biology, and a bunch of others so it is excellent prep. the reason i say “real” pre-med program is because the classes apply to the medical field, unlike actual pre-med requirements of bio, chem, orgo, and physics that you will NEVER use again after the mcat. the only purpose of the mcat is to see how much useless information your brain can handle and then you will never look at it again; only slightly in biochem.</p>

<p>Hey aliangel, thanks for replying in my thread. I was wondering if those anatomy and pathophysiology classes are available to students not from the SAR school? cause they def sound great</p>

<p>yes they are, at least i know gross is, because i had a friend who was an archaeology major who took gross with me. i just don’t know the procedures for going about getting signed into the courses.</p>

<p>I would assume you’d be driven to work in research or healthcare but then what do you do if you’re pre-med and don’t get in? Probably the same thing.</p>

<p>I have to learn more about this program. One of my kids might fit this. </p>

<p>I don’t know exactly how to ask this but is the program less pre-meddy, meaning less filled with kids who want to be doctors but who don’t really like science all that much?</p>

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<p>here’s the same link with the career opportunities, which almost all require grad school. the human phys program is basically for kids who want to go to medical school, so it is more pre-meddy and incorporates a lot of science.</p>

<p>Ali - I guess I will just make this a public one! As a student who is not exposed too much to the science aspects of both majors (Biology and Human Physiology) what do you think the main differences are? </p>

<p>If you have taken classes at both CAS and SAR - which would you say is better and why?</p>

<p>biology: you take biology classes, straight up. you can also specialize in something like neuroscience. human phys incorporates the physiology of the human body. look up the curriculum for a bio major and see what the course outline is like. i can’t really say which is better because it all depends on the person. human phys was better for me because i want to be a doctor. however, if you don’t want to go to medical school or don’t get in, you can’t really do much with a degree in human physiology. it’s all subjective.</p>

<p>Are people from CAS say allowed to take nutrition and human phys?</p>

<p>I have nothing against BU, I am from Boston(BC) is too, I am just telling you my opinion, which is usually formulated by college rankings, and prestige. Meaning if you ask someone whats better academically, BC>BU, anyone would tell you that objectively, not just me. However, If you got to BU and love it then I would assume you prefer BU, but then you aren’t being objective. I would go to BC because its about the same price and better reputated academically, and haha I did not get rejected lol, I am going to Maryland for soccer.</p>

<p>then stop posting here you have never been to bu and don’t know anything about the programs and are leaving the state. it’s obnoxious because you can’t give any reason for students not to go to bu except…?</p>

<p>sorry abkid, i didn’t even answer your question. i’m not sure, and the human phys course isn’t a part of the human phys major, ironically enough. it’s sys phys, which is a 300 level vs. the 200 level human phys. you’d have to find out through cas advisors.</p>

<p>Thanks Ali Angel - and as for Ms. BC - do you even know what rankings signify? Do you know where BC alum end up and where BU alum end up? Do you know what the similarities and differences are between the two school’s professors? BU has a LOT of Harvard professors - BC probably does to, so it’s about the educators. It is a tragedy that you’re so dependent on rankings to tell you which is better. Does BC even have a medical school? No… Truly, a tragedy. I don’t even see why you’re here because you don’t have anything to go off of, anything subjective at all. The only pride you seem to have in your school is that it’s ranked a little higher, but I doubt you even know what that means.</p>

<p>Here’s a simple point, especially for people in the sciences. </p>

<p>External research funding - most comes through various federal agencies, rest through private foundations and corporations:</p>

<ol>
<li>BC - $44M. That’s from their latest report and covers 2008.</li>
<li>Northeastern - $40M. That’s from their website, again for 2008. Wikipedia says $70M but there isn’t a source.</li>
<li>BU - $336M. That’s for 2008.</li>
</ol>

<p>Major research university = BU, which is in the upper tier nationally.</p>

<p>BTW, if you completely exclude BU’s medical campus, BU still has $240M in external grand funding.</p>