@evergreen5 maybe UCLA doesn’t trust the concordance tables and decided not to report SAT scores since the school most likely had a mixture of old and new scores for the Class of 2021
I don’t know if CC will allow this attachment or if it will work. It’s a spreadsheet with ACT and SAT scores complete with percentiles on the same page so you can see where the percentiles for ACT and SAT do not match up.
For example, you can see that a 1480 is where the 99th percentiles start on the SAT but it’s 34 on the ACT. Yet, a 1480 is supposedly equal to a 33 on the SAT conversion chart.
Very interesting @homerdog . Thanks for the link
@homerdog I think part of the problem with the chart is the notion that a composite 36 corresponds to a 1600. I don’t buy that at all. A 36 composite on the ACT is 35.5, 35.75, or 36. It feels like the 36 composite should really map to 1580-1600. That would slide all the ACT scores down and fix some of the discrepancy.
is a 1550 really a 34 on the ACT? 34 seems low for a 1550 but im not too sure… if anyone has a general idea of what a 2280-2350 range equates to on the new SAT please let me know!
The College Board has a score converter on their URL. You input all three section scores of the old SAT and you are given the new SAT equivalent.
https://collegereadiness.collegeboard.org/sat/scores/understanding-scores/sat-score-converter
@seehoarse @MommyCoqui The whole point of this thread is to discuss the inaccuracy of the College Board’s 2016 concordance tables upon which the converter is based. In other words, the College Board’s 2016 tables (and converter) appear to be incorrect.
@seehoarse There is no need to concern yourself with the Old SAT. Pay attention to the admissions data for the Class of 2022 when it is posted by the colleges you are interested in, on the colleges’ websites only, over the summer and into the fall. Also note that the College Board and ACT are jointly developing a new SAT-ACT concordance to be published this summer.
The most recent New SAT percentiles were published by the College Board in September 2017. https://collegereadiness.collegeboard.org/pdf/understanding-sat-scores.pdf
Yes, I understand that but someone asked how to get the old SAT score from the new one so I advised.
“Also note that the College Board and ACT are jointly developing a new SAT-ACT concordance to be published this summer.”
My Google skills must be really poor because I can’t find any news about this on the internet. Can someone please post an article or something?
@JBStillFlying
Score Comparisons – SAT Suite | College Board
https://www.collegeboard.org/membership/all-access/admissions/sat-score-trends-five-things-enrollment-leaders-need-know
@evergreen5 Thank you!
It seems we are going in circle again as many did not read the past 550 posts.
Random data point
Williams released test score data for admitted students Class of 2022.
Avg SAT scores
733 verbal 747 Math
For Class of 2021 admitted students
Avg SAT new test
722 Verbal 721 Math
Avg SAT old test
736 Verbal 737 Math 732 Writing
So comparing new to old - not much change in the scores, which supports the theory that the concordance tables showing new scores are inflated are not quite accurate, at least at the high end of the range
Did they release the average ACT scores as well?
33 super scored - unchanged from last year
@wisteria100 Thanks. Another data point to show that the concordance is off, but not by much in the Williams example, but still coasting on the lower end of the spread. (Specifically, under the current concordance table, an ACT 33 converts to an SAT 1490-1510. Williams numbers show that the average SAT is 1480, against an average ACT of 33.)
I was referring more to the new SAT to old SAT concordance table. That shows that a 1480 on the new test is only equal to a 1430 on the old test. These scores from Williams, and some scores that were reported last yr, do not seems to support that
Class of 2022 admitted student data from Santa Clara https://www.scu.edu/news-and-events/press-releases/2018/march-2018/santa-clara-university-sends-admissions-decisions-to-the-class-of-2022.html
Class of 2022 Villanova https://admissionsintel.com/villanova-acceptance-rate-now-29-percent/
admitted student middle 50 percentiles
SAT 1380-1490
ACT 32-34
@evergreen5 Thanks so much for keeping us all in the loop.
Further support that the ACT to SAT concordance is off by at least one point (perhaps even 2 given that these are in the lower of the ranges).