SAT II Subject Test: Literature (International)

<p>Right, okay, I think I misunderstood the meaning of the word then.</p>

<p>Does anybody remember the options question on the Child/Darkness passage? It said ‘a change in POV’, something else, and one about changing feelings about the future? I put the first two as correct.</p>

<p>I remember that. I originally had the first two were correct, but then I changed it to E (all 3). God knows why. I tend to be overly ambivalent. Tense change and POV change were def. both there, I’m leaning towards no for the future, but I suppose it’s possible if CB was stretching it.</p>

<p>Cheers for that. And did the darkness represent Naivety?</p>

<p>I actually put reality for that one. To me it sounded like the story was pointing out a time when the kid finally began to see the reality of his relationship w/ adults. I think he didn’t sound too naive because in the last sentence, for example, he fully acknowledges that he knows that adults keep things from him. Not sure though. If I were looking at it without having read the passage, darkness would 99% mean naivety. Do you remember the exact wording of the q?</p>

<p>Yeah, I agree with you, I didn’t put naivety either. I put something about confronting reality as well.</p>

<p>I don’t remember the exact wording, but it was something long the lines of… what does the darkness outside represent? (I’m probably way off the mark though)</p>

<p>Ah, good. Do you remember one at the beginning of the one about the girl wanting to be a teacher, and it was like the mother’s absurd something. What’d you get for that?</p>

<p>I don’t even remember that being an answer choice… :/</p>

<p>First passage:

  1. What are the gains? The happiness after her death?
  2. The remains are the children?
  3. Ignorant because no one knows when she will die?</p>

<p>Mother/daughter:

  1. Reason to passion? Or diplomatic to direct? I put the former b/c to me the mother wasn’t trying to compromise, or be diplomatic, but instead try to reason with her daughter.
  2. Ineffectual reasoning? Or Adamant Questioning?
  3. Daughter doesn’t do her kitchen chores?
  4. Financially secure?
  5. (First question) Example was that children should be grateful for being born?</p>

<p>Man character description:

  1. He’s easy to take advantage of?
  2. People judge on making and spending money?
  3. Author leaves open discussion/open question on criticism of values?
  4. Shortcoming?</p>

<p>Sea Poem:

  1. Are “glens” and “caverns” representative of human need for fulfillment?
  2. Does “ruled” mean accepting? Or governing? Or decreed?
  3. No allusion? Or repetition? I put no allusion.</p>

<p>Dammit. Can’t quite remember that Q :confused:
First:

  1. I put whatever joys the future may hold
  2. I put body
  3. No one knows when they’ll die</p>

<p>M/D

  1. Diplomatic to direct
  2. I can’t remember.
  3. Oooooo, the passage didn’t mention anything about the daughter doing kitchen chores but I thought the passage suggested a society which wouldn’t be happy if she didn’t do them, so I ruled that one out.
  4. Financially secure
  5. Grateful for being born</p>

<p>Man description

  1. easily taken advantage of
  2. People judge on making/spending money
  3. Can’t remember
  4. Shortcoming
    One of the answers I’m sure was a worldly society, and another, the author making the narrator uphold the absurd values of the time to leave society open to critiscism.</p>

<p>Sea poem
1.Human affection/fulfilment
2. Decreed
3. No allusion</p>

<p>Happiness - yes
Remains - yes
Ignorant - yes (99% sure about these, I thought this was pretty straightforward).</p>

<p>I said reason to passion because of the exclamation she threw in at the end. (Plus is also directly uses the word “reasoning” in the sentence)
I said ineffectual reasoning because at the end the daughter still wants to be a teacher. (Its pair was like direct d______, but I think it fit well). What was adamant questioning’s pair?
Chores - yes
Financially secure - yes
I actually put that she could convince her daughter to do anything. It’ll probably depend on how CB looks at the passage, as a simple story, or kind of hoping for rights for children or something. I think that the grateful thing is prob. right though.</p>

<p>Easy to take advantage of - yes
Making money - yes
I said the author is joining his views with his society or something, as to me, he seemed to be a little superficial himself.
Shortcoming - yes</p>

<p>glens/caverns - yes
I said decreed. I think it was secretly being a little secular, but idk.
I put no repetition. I didn’t see any significant repetition, and I do believe God is a pretty big allusion.</p>

<p>***What’d you guys get for the mot likely author of the one about the guy and money and society or whatever? Possible choices were: good natured observer, gossip columnist, bankrupt businessman, etc.</p>

<p>@pomani even, i chose the first 2 correct for the change in P.O.V. question. And, I put ‘harsh realities’ for the darkness question.</p>

<p>First passage:

  1. What are the gains? The happiness after her death? I put happiness after death.
  2. The remains are the children? Yes, i put that.
  3. Ignorant because no one knows when she will die? Yes.</p>

<p>Mother/daughter:

  1. Reason to passion? Or diplomatic to direct? I put the former b/c to me the mother wasn’t trying to compromise, or be diplomatic, but instead try to reason with her daughter. I think it was the latter because there was something to suggest ‘diplomatic’ at the beginning, can’t remember what it was.
  2. Ineffectual reasoning? Or Adamant Questioning? Adamant questioning is what i put. Not sure about this.
  3. Daughter doesn’t do her kitchen chores? yes.
  4. Financially secure? yes.
  5. (First question) Example was that children should be grateful for being born? yes.</p>

<p>Man character description:

  1. He’s easy to take advantage of? yes.
  2. People judge on making and spending money? yes.
  3. Author leaves open discussion/open question on criticism of values? don’t remember, what was this question again?
  4. Shortcoming? yes</p>

<p>Sea Poem:

  1. Are “glens” and “caverns” representative of human need for fulfillment? yes, i think that’s what i put.
  2. Does “ruled” mean accepting? Or governing? Or decreed? I wrote governed, not sure though. Decreed sounds plausible too.
  3. No allusion? Or repetition? I put no allusion. Same, there was a mention of God, but I dont’ think that serves as ‘a classical allusion.’</p>

<p>I’m sure it was worldly society.</p>

<p>Was ‘Children’ an option for the question of ‘my dear remains’? I can’t remember seeing it.</p>

<p>If you guys are getting no allusion, then when is the emphatic repetition that you found in the passage, if I may ask.</p>

<p>Yes, children 100% the answer</p>

<p>was there a question that asked the meaning of ‘forbear’? I don’t remember it :S</p>

<p>Yeah… it was in the one about the youth thing I think. I think the answer was refuse.</p>

<p>Damn it. I think you’re right about the allusion thing, just read the poem again and there’s no repetition. And i guess God is an allusion of sorts.</p>

<p>Haha, I go to a religious school so I’m kind of partial to God as an allusion thing, as our English teacher never hesitates to point it out. Although, classical does sound strange. Could it be referring maybe to some Bible story or something where God took away the closeness of humans or something like in the Tower of Babel or w.e? (Basically when humans were sinful so God was like oh hey you can’t speak the same language anymore what now). But if it were, CB would be giving an edge to religious kids and they prob wouldn’t count the q anyway.</p>