SAT II's: which of these schools...

<p>I have a list of schools that I'm looking into applying to for next year, and I was curious which of these require 1, 2, or no SAT II subject tests.</p>

<p>Baldwin-Wallace College (MT) (BM)
Boston Conservatory (MT) (BFA)
CSU- Fullerton (MT) (BFA)
Columbia College (MT) (BFA)
Emerson College (MT) (BFA)
University of Hartford- The Hartt School (MT) (BFA)
Indiana University (MT) (BFA)
Ithaca College (MT) (BFA)
Marymount Manhattan College (Acting w/ MT minor) (BFA)
University of Miami (MT) (BFA or BM)
University of Michigan (MT) (BFA)
NYU/Tisch (MT) (BFA)
Pace University (MT) (BFA)
Roosevelt University (MT) (BFA)
Sarah Lawrence College (Acting) (BA)
Syracuse University (MT) (BFA)
Wagner College (Theatre Performance) (BA)
Western Michigan University (MT) (BFA) </p>

<p>thanks!</p>

<p>Some colleges recommend the SAT IIs, but last year the following list did not REQUIRE it for MT majors. I don't know the requirements for the other schools on your list. You still need to check out this year's requirements:</p>

<p>BW, Indiana, Ithaca, Michigan, NYU Tisch, Syracuse</p>

<p>Jessica1289,</p>

<p>I don't know of any school that flat out REQUIRES SAT II for their MT students, but I would definately do them unless you have a serious problem with these kinds of tests.
Most schools look at hundreds of MT students and take 12-20 kids. During the audition process they can easily pick out the top and the bottom. It's the middle ones that get a little tricky. Schools offer about 35-50 kids positions, knowing that 12-20 will take them. Most schools have a number system that they use during the auditions, say 1-6. When they've finished their auditions, they offer the "1 & 2's" positions and send the 4-6's rejection letters. They end up with a huge pile of threes and have only a few positions left to offer. If you are one of the "threes", your grades, SAT/ACT scores, recommendations, physical appearance, resume & repetoire are what set you apart from the rest. </p>

<p>Many of the more selective schools won't even let you audition unless you get past the academic gate keeper. MT programs are becoming more and more competitive, put your best foot forward. Talent is wonderful, but schools are also looking for students that are hard workers and well rounded people who can work well with others. I wish you the best of luck, and I think that if YOU are doing this work as a junior, you've got a leg up on many! </p>

<p>Sarahsmom42</p>

<p>I'm pretty certain when I say this. Most MT programs won't care if you take the SAT II's or not. Many won't even look at your regular SAT, as long as you get into the University itself. Granted I can see a school like NYU putting them into consideration, but beyond that it doesn't matter. Why stress yourself out so much about it before getting into auditions? Focus on the really import and part, the audition itself.</p>

<p>By all means, prepare for your auditions! That's a given, but it is naive to think that UMich, CMU, NYU, Syracuse, Indiana, Minnesota or Penn State ignore test scores and GPA's! Sometimes MT students are given special consideration, but it is very important to read and comply carefully with all of the requirements set out by the different schools admissions offices. Do not rely solely on your talent because talent alone does not equal success and these schools know it! </p>

<p>sarahsmom</p>

<p>Most schools -- in fact almost all MT schools -- do not care about your SAT2s at all. </p>

<p>And with all the stuff that these kids have to do -- fill in so many apps, fill in supplements, schedule auditions go to auditions, practice for auditions, take lessons, etc., it can be helpful to have one t hing that need not be done. </p>

<p>Clearly, check with the specific schools. But you will find that most or all of the ones mentioned above do not care. If you are border line to meet some academic cutoffs, then perhaps they can be helpful. But otherwise, it's one of the only "perks" out there for MT applicants.</p>

<p>I talked to a college counselor about whether my D (who hopes to pursue MT in college) ought to take the SAT IIs, and she replied "Only if she wants to show off. Most of the schools offering the programs she is interested in won't care about them."</p>

<p>Even if "most of the schools offering the programs she is interested in won't care about them", that doesn't mean ALL won't! :) Taking SAT IIs has nothing to do with showing off, in my opinion. We all know that there are some MT programs where academics are, indeed, a part of the admissions decision. Different programs assign different weight to that 'part'. If you have a strong academic student, there is no downside to taking the SAT IIs. They may factor into the determination of some academic scholarship $$ if the scores are good. They may also enter into the academic review portion of some colleges' admissions decision. My recommendation is that you check with each college you're interested in and see if they require or recommend SAT IIs. If they do EITHER of those things, then the applicant should take them.</p>

<p>Thank you alwaysamom.</p>

<p>I'm going to trust the conversations that I've had with the admissions offices of the schools that my D has applied to. The rest is all very subjective and out of my control. </p>

<p>Sarahsmom</p>

<p>Students should take the SAT IIs if and only if they think that they will do well enough so that the scores will help them. Yes, good scores always help. Poor scores will not keep students out in most cases, but they can hurt if admission committees are comparing students that they perceive to have similar levels of talent. Good scores on SAT IIs would then be a tipping factor. My child did not take SAT IIs or apply to schools where they were required and was accepted into several strong programs. He said he would gouge his eyes out with a number 2 pencil if he had to take another standardized test.</p>