<p>chammom,</p>
<p>Point taken; my D is an athlete w/median scores. However, the comments are more to point out that BWRKs (Bright Well Rounded Kids) with no hook & <25% scores should not consider themselves "in range."</p>
<p>Thethoughtprocess and SBmom: I understand your point and thanks for your replies. I guess I just wanted to remind people that URMs and athletes are not the only ones in the <25% pool, and that some urms or athletes are actually in the higher end of the range. By the same token, a URM or athlete in the <25% range should not presume he is a shoo-in. Enough said.</p>
<p>A disparaging rec...? Wow, I wonder how many teachers seriously do that (in the case that the student is really problematic).</p>
<p>Just shoot for a score of 2100... 2200 for HYPS as well.</p>
<p>I'm going to phrase my rec requests like this:</p>
<p>"Would you be willing to, and could you, in good conscience, write me a glowing rec?"</p>
<p>to avoid nasty recs (not that I think that'll be a problem)</p>
<p>Actually, now that I think about it, 2250+ for HYPS. I know it seems high, but it just seems like many applicants will score 2250 or higher.</p>
<p>How much does score distribution factor into their decision? I got a 2260 on my SAT's, but with a 660 in Math, so I think if I apply saying I want to be an English major, I'll be fine. Or will the Math score come back to haunt me?</p>
<p>Perhaps, perhaps not. You can't tell. Apply as your most likely major.</p>
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At the University of Virginia, the admissions director stressed that last year that SAT averages of in-staters were actually a little higher than those of out-of-staters.
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<p>I strongly suspect that something was lost in the translation. This may be true for enrolled students, but UVa's own data for accepted students contradicts this.</p>
<p>Researchers Lerner and Nagai obtained a complete set of data for the entire accepted class for the fall of 1999 at UVa using a Freedom of Infomation request. They published the data in a paper for the Center for Equal Opportunity.</p>
<p>The combined median SATs for the accepted students that year were:</p>
<p>White In-state: 1240-1430
White Out-of-state: 1340-1510</p>
<p>Asian In-state: 1250-1450
Asian Out-of-state: 1370-1540</p>
<p>Hispanic In-state: 1197-1390
Hispanic Out-of-state: 1250-1430</p>
<p>Black In-state: 1050-1280
Black Out-of-state: 1115-1310</p>
<p>As you can see, the out-of-state numbers for students who received an acceptance letter were signficantly higher across the board. It is possible that the high-stat out-of-state kids do not enroll at a very high rate (since they don't benefit from low tuition and are likely to have been accepted other places.) But, the odds suggest that it it takes higher SATs for out-of-state admissions.</p>