<p>Facinating, but not easy to analyze. It's hard to understand what's the cause and what's the result of any of the "gaps" people point out.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, in our society, you cannot give the reasons for the gaps without being called a racist, sexist, or something else (unless you blame it on the white man).</p>
<p>I'm a girl and I have an 800 Math... My parents don't make too much money, either. But then again, I'm Asian Indian, so there ya go. BTW, your stats are on the ACT, not the SAT.</p>
<p>You're right. I don't know how that happened as I was looking at the SATs when I copied the link. Guess we get both Try this for the SATs:</p>
<p>There are many reasons
take me for instance Hispanic,
There is a 250 POINT difference on on Writing (510) and Math (760) lol. Language is somewhat of a problem for me (i've always had C+'s in English even this year in AP English Literature) Parents never went to college, they where immigrants( so there English isnt good ). And when You look at the SATs 50% of your score comes from your English knowledge. And look at my combined score 1270 (you think average school right? but when you look at math (760 you think Harvard or IVy, right?) but when you look at the 510 you think community college.</p>
<p>About gender, There was an article this week in Time about the differences in the mind between the sexes, they brought up SAT differnece in score. Interesting :-)</p>
<p>you notice that on average, the rich do good on these test, yet the poor do worse. JUst noticed.</p>
<p>go asians!</p>
<p>JMIONE1 where do you live and what school do you go to? I live in McLean VA.</p>
<p>LOLZ TEH ST00p|D gurlz!</p>
<p>rExRuN467, your statement is completely idiotic and has no factual basis.</p>
<p>First of all, that website is complete ****. if they want to conduct a study they could at least be impartial.</p>
<p>second of all, everyone who has taken the SAT knows that they don't even ask for your god damn income, so how the hell did they get that information?</p>
<p>third of all, income doesn't mean ****.</p>
<p>my sister got a 1520 on her SAT when my dad made 40k a year. now he makes about 225k a year and I got a 1530.</p>
<p>bubblekid, actually, you're completely off the mark. There have been numerous studies done over the years, and family income is ALWAYS one of the major indicators of SAT scores. Studies of this kind are often done by polling students and combining that information with official score info, so the fact that the SAT might not ask about family income is irrelevant.</p>
<p>Remember that these are just statistics, or general trends. Lots of "rich kids" do poorly, and lots of "poor kids" score extremely well, but ON THE WHOLE, students from wealthier families do much better than from poorer families. I'm sure there are tons of factors contributing to this discrepancy, but I'm not going to speculate on them here.</p>
<p>As a side note, according to most studies, SAT scores are a better indicator of family income, race and gender than they are an indicator of college performance. In fact, by sophomore year in college, there is no significant correlation between SAT scores and academic performance.</p>
<p>Kind of make you wonder why everybody has to take the test....</p>
<p>"my sister got a 1520 on her SAT when my dad made 40k a year. now he makes about 225k a year and I got a 1530."</p>
<p>You do know that a single counterexample doesn't disprove a theory, right?</p>
<p>"In fact, by sophomore year in college, there is no significant correlation between SAT scores and academic performance."</p>
<p>Maybe freshman year changes people...</p>
<p>oh well. I go by what I feel is correct. personally I feel a lot of the information going around this website is inaccurate, I think people make statements that don't come from cold hard fact. And let's face it, there is set in stone when it comes to college admissions.</p>
<p>and if you can explain to me the correlation between the two and how they affect each other then perhaps I will retract my statements.</p>
<p>Bubblekid, one theory of many I've heard about income affecting SAT scores is that a majority (not all, of course) of wealthy people are well-educated. (There is a statistical correlation between level of education and income.) If your parents are well-educated, you're probably exposed to, say, a higher level of vocabulary than the children of parents with less education. That would definitely give you an advantage on the old verbal , now critical reading, section. You can probably extrapolate from there... remember, we're just talking about averages here. There are exceptions to every rule.</p>
<p>that perhaps might be true...</p>
<p>quite obviously my account alone cannot serve as the basis of an entire theory, but I do consider myself a common person among the "majority" of normal people. (i'm not really sure if that made sense), however in other aspects I am far from the normal. (it is quite confusing, I know)</p>
<p>to support your theory at a greater strength I would venture to say that having well educated parents (which we are assuming leads to higher income) will cause a greater influence over their progeny to be more successful in school. while both my mom and dad have Ph D's from Berkeley I would say that my english and vocabulary is better than theirs 10 fold, as they are also immigrants from foreign countries. both have a THICK accent, and my dad honestly just butchers the language. english is not always the primary language spoken.</p>
<p>so as you said, there are exceptions to every rule. however I think that this language phenomenon would occur with many other of the asians who scored well on the SAT.</p>
<p>I guess now it is necessary to establish then, if indeed having a higher income family leads to better SAT scores, what is the use of knowing this information?</p>
<p>despite the disadvantage a certain race or income level a student may have, wouldn't you say that there is nothing stopping them from studying for the test? reading a dictionary?</p>
<p>just posing topics for thought/discussion.</p>
<p>I guess the point is that the SAT is biased. It's less biased than it used to be, but it's still biased. I understand the underlying desire to have a test that is a common measuring stick of students from different schools and different backgrounds, but the SAT is not a very good one.</p>
<p>Also, if you know it's biased against you for whatever reason, you can take steps to overcome that.</p>
<p>I agree. It's not as biased as in past years, but it is still very biased. It's not a fair system, but not one that'll be going away anytime soon</p>
<p>The SAT is not biased, it is simply a test. It has been proven over and over, in every study, that it cases where women and men who receive the same grades take the same test, the man will score higher. That does not make him a superior intellect, merely that women dont perform as well under test experiences.</p>
<p>And of course the amount of money a person makes directly corresponds. Think about it. While intelligence does count directly into the SAT, you still have to have had the information presented to you. A wealthy family can afford to send their children to a private school, with a far lower studnt/teacher ratio, far less overworked teachers, better facilities, and simply, a better education. Public schools cannot offer an education that corresponds. That doesnt mean that all public schools suck, nor does it mean that all people who go to private schools are guaranteed high scores, hardly. But it can account for these trends.</p>
<p>It is so a biased test. Genderly, no. But if you look at income ranges, than yes it is. Let's be truthful, do you really think that many inner-city school kids who are minorities, who are living with a parents (or parents) making $40,000 or less a year are scoring as high as private school/boarding school students whose parents are making $150,000+?</p>
<p>No, but why? Its because they havent been educated to the standard that the SAT wants to hold! Should the SAT cheapen itself, so that kids who havent been educated to effective standards be given high scores? I tell you, when that happens, the SAT will not be used, and something else will take its place.</p>