<p>At first I agreed with collegebound_guy but then I read this post</p>
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<p>and I completely understand because I have the same problem. I got three wrong on math, leaving me with a 720 and an 8 on my essay leaving me with a 670 with only 5ish MC wrong on writing. I feel your pain :P. Keep in mind though that it IS a great score.</p>
<p>Thanks. I think the essay is ridiculous. It is purely based on length and the number of examples you give. I had 3 examples for the May SAT but I went into too much depth for the first two leaving me with no time for the third. For Math, I really just need to slow down.</p>
<p>^There’s a reason why colleges don’t put much stock in it…</p>
<p>Exactly my point. I recently emailed Dartmouth about my dilemma and they responded by saying that they place equal emphasis on the Writing section, which is quite disconcerting.</p>
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Michigan doesn’t really care if you use score choice. It takes your highest score in a single sitting. Michigan also consider your application holistically. Your SAT score is not as important as your curriculum and GPA.</p>
<p>Well no problem there. I take IB - am a full candidate - and I will be predicted between 42 and 44 out of 45.</p>
<p>Michigan does not really care about the SAT unless you are looking for a scholarship. A score of 2000-2200 is more than enough, assuming your grades are good. A42/45 predicted results on the IB is what really matters. Have all your documents ready before the November 1 deadline and your chances are solid.</p>
<p>Yeah if you want to retake the SAT to have a better chance at ivies then it might be worth your time but a 2120 is plenty for Michigan.</p>
<p>i say stop, don’t take it a fourth time ~if you already took it three times and still got that " low " of a score because of silly mistakes all three times, i don’t think you’ll get a higher score next time . . . 2 times is standard, 3 times is going for possible improvement, but 4 seems a little redundant/pointless ( at least to me ) </p>
<p>your time would be better spent on your GPA and throwing yourself into your extracurriculars rather than studying for the SAT’s . . . or you could try taking the ACT’s ( i know they were easier for me ~questions seemed more straightforward ) </p>
<p>im OOS, sat is a 2130, act a 33 and i got in, so don’t worry TOO much about standarized tests (:</p>
<p>I agree completely with collegebound_guy on this one. There is nothing hideous about a 2130 SAT score. Only a small percentage of students perform better than that. I could think of a lot of better things to do on a Saturday morning that taking the test again.</p>
<p>“U of M places greater emphasis on your GPA.”</p>
<p>“Michigan does not really care about the SAT…”</p>
<p>Why is this true?* GPAs are so variable, depending almost completely upon the high school and much less upon the student’s performance…* That is, a 3.0 at a top school often represents superior performance to a 4,0 at a weak school.</p>
<p>What are the average SAT scores of entering freshmen at UM anyway?* Is there some independent source for that kind of info?* Thanks…</p>
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Not true at all. For my January and March SAT essays, I used 1 and 2 examples respectively and received a 12 on both.</p>
<p>they do care about SAT/ACT, they just look at the GPA more to make sure you didn’t slack in HS
right?</p>
<p>keep in mind they compare your GPA relative to the GPA’s in your school. If your school is tough and has an average gpa of only like 3.4 while you have a 3.6, they will look at you favorably. On the other hand, if your school inflates your grades and the average is 3.9, and you only got a 3.3, there is a problem.</p>
<p>Also, when they say “GPA”, they also mean how rigorous your classes were. A lot of people get screwed over thinking they are a shoo-in to schools like U of M because they took so many easy classes and get a 3.9 when in reality they’ll probably get rejected and the guy with a 3.7 but who took 5 or 6 AP classes will get in easily.</p>
<p>Caroline,</p>
<p>“GPAs are so variable, depending almost completely upon the high school and much less upon the student’s performance…* That is, a 3.0 at a top school often represents superior performance to a 4,0 at a weak school.”</p>
<p>That is correct, and Michigan will curriculum and high school strength into consideration. </p>
<p>“What are the average SAT scores of entering freshmen at UM anyway?* Is there some independent source for that kind of info?”</p>
<p>The mid 50% SAT range for entering Freshmen is 1230-1430.</p>
<p><a href=“Office of Budget and Planning”>Office of Budget and Planning;
<p>But remember, unlike most private uiversities, Michigan does not report superscored SATs, nor does it report only the SAT scores of students who took both the SAT and the ACT but for whom the SAT was relatively higher than the ACT. Michigan will report the single highest SAT score in one sitting for all students who submit the SAT.</p>
<p>“they do care about SAT/ACT, they just look at the GPA more to make sure you didn’t slack in HS right?”</p>
<p>Yes, they obviously care, but much less than most top universities do. Michigan’s admissions office is not out to lower acceptance rates and increase average SAT scores through data manipulation just to look good on paper. It is one of the few elite universities that will not compromise its admissions integrity.</p>
<p>People here take these tests way too many times – four times is ridiculous. At a information session at Columbia, the admissions lady flat-out said as much. Three is even more than enough.</p>
<p>Your score is undoubtedly a very good score. Don’t bother.</p>
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Typically formulaic essays that receive 11 or 12 have 3 examples, so your case is an exception.</p>
<p>Thats a hideous score?</p>
<p>I got a 2100 first-take and I’m jumping for joy. (I barely prepared… I took a course but didn’t pay attention b/c it was aimed for people not interested in solving the problems but how to get cheap solutions. However… I will admit that I paid attention to the grammar part and it REALLY helped. My writing score went from a 550 to a 710). A 2100 is the 97th percentile… 2300 is 99th+. Not that big of a difference TBH.</p>
<p>I, however, do not agree with the statement that your score will not change over time. The lowest practice test that I took for the course was an 1830, the highest was a 2020. In the end, I reached my goal of a 2100. Even though I KNOW that I can do better than I did on one of the sections I’m not going to do it again… its not worth the stress for maybe 70 more points.</p>
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<p>As for the essay, they want fewer topics with greater detail. My general formula for the essay:
2 examples; often Historical
Fill the space given</p>
<p>I got an 11 on the essay… which I didn’t even know was possible LOL. I’m a terrible timed writer.</p>
<p>The difference between a 2300+ and a 2100+ is alot.</p>
<p>Especially if your school has an insanely high SAT avg.</p>
<p>For example, my school’s average SAT is a 2090, so you’d have to get at least a 2100 to be above average.</p>
<p>And even then, your still like just 1 percent above average and when the graduating class is 700 people each year, yeah, a 2300 and a 2100 make a huge difference.</p>
<p>But if you took it 3x already, it’s kind of time to let it go.</p>
<p>Unless you have extreme circumstances such as being nervous 2x because you got there late or something.</p>