SATs for Internationals

<p>What is a good SAT score (ivy league material) for international students? Naturally our English skills are usually less adequate than Americans - do schools take that into consideration when examining test scores?</p>

<p>I managed to get a total of 2220: 790 Math, 750 Reading, 680 Writing. Is it ok to assume that as long as the math section went well I have a shot at, let's say, Harvard? I also heard that the writing section is less looked at in general...</p>

<p>Those are GREAT scores and definately in the Ivy range.
Your Reading and Writting are a LOT better than most Americans (I got 710 and 690 and my mother tongue is English, though I've never been to school in English).
You've got a great chance for the Ivies, even though obviously no one is guaranteed.
If you have an interesting life and good EC then you're in for a real chance.</p>

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<p>No way.. rather when u compare the data u l find that many a times internationals at such top schuls ( rather mostly at these top schuls) international students are about a gr8 lot better than the native lot for some obvious reasons that invariably depends on the number of seats , financial concern, high quality and number of applicants pool , diversity factors and all</p>

<p>What you got there is a very respectable and great score..but even a 2400 is no Harvard or princeton type score...
Scores wont get u in. they will just help prove tht you are proficient enough to do the work and have basic intellect..</p>

<p>You other achievements and the whole application package will make ur way into the halls of ur dream IVY.. though well IVY admission are as much realistically predicted as ur winning odds at Las vegas .. so to keep odds open al u may do is keep trying ur best...</p>

<p>SM</p>

<p>The main question is though if the scores are looked at differently than those of US citizens</p>

<p>2270: 800CR, 760M, 710W. I live in the US, but English is my third language and I still count as an international student in admissions.</p>

<p>^hehe I got the same score. International too. And almost the same break down: 800cr 740m 730w. Where are you gonna apply to?</p>

<p>Since we're all in a confiding mood :) 2330 (composite) 800 CR, 800 W 730 M and 800 chem, 800 math II 770 Lit.</p>

<p>Haven't really decided for sure as to where I'm going to apply. (other than HYPMS, the usual, that are reaches for all)</p>

<p>well for ur type sat scores above 2200 they wont be seen any differently coz adcomm find no reason to do so as no matter 1st 2nd or 3rd it aint ur weakness for sure....</p>

<p>but otherwise yes CR and english based components are seen in a different light BUT FOR COUNTRIES WHERER ENGLISH IS LITTLE SPOKEN AND not like INDIA OR KOREA where english usage is at the maximum and sumtimes even oustrips the nayive language also...</p>

<p>so if u r frm one of such countries dont expect any mercy for a low english based score.,.. moreover, well none of the scores prezsented above are low in any section....</p>

<p>SM</p>

<p>megaman123: I haven't decided where I'm applying yet, but I'm considering Middlebury, MIT, Dartmouth, Brown, Stanford, Colgate, Macalester, Carleton, Kenyon, Grinnell, Bowdoin, and some others. How about you?</p>

<p>India and English seems like oxymoron .please come to UP(oops Uttam Pradesh ) and see for yourself the refined english that people are accustomed to.. Any one will have a field day trying to understand spoken english ha but then there is more to india than " Mulayam-Laloo Land".</p>

<p>you all are high achievers it seems (as per your scores)</p>

<p>cameliasinensis ( wow...I hope I typed it right, I'm in a bit of a hurry lol):
I think I'm doing: Upenn, MIT, Princeton, colgate, villanova, UT austin, Texas a&m, harvard ( I don't like it but my mom asked me to apply), boston college and bunch more ( can't remember the exact list right now)</p>

<p>Pardon me for asking such a silly question but, what do international students have that allows them to get such great scores? Is it that drive and competitiveness that is instilled in them by their parents, better memory, or just natural talent?</p>

<p>^I feel maybe a lot of internationals tend to work towards a goal: their admission in a great american/x nationality university, that might help ints. score high. In general I think internationals actually tend to score lower, due to CR and W, not in every case but defintiely in the majority of cases ( CC isn't the majority!! hahah). I look around at fellow classmates and I see them struggling with CR and W, due to our native language, a case which I feel is probably repititive in other nations as well.</p>

<p>the intls in CC are definitely not a general representation of all intls.... im an intl n consequently know MANY intls.... n lets say that from about the ehm..... around 100 ppl i know who are applying or have applied to college this or last year i only know ONE who's had a score above 2000.
generally most intls score somewhere between 1500 - 1900. if i were you guys i wouldnt be so obsessed and worried about sats.... i personally got less than a 1900 and got into notre dame with scholarship.... which for intls is VERY VERY HARD given the fact that they're not need blind. so worry not and instead try putting together an overall outstanding application.</p>

<p>sars284,</p>

<p>I got a 2270, but I'm not an "international" student as such, as I've lived in the US for five years and attend American high school. The only reason I'm considered an international applicant is my A-1 [diplomatic] visa. My parents have mostly discouraged me; I won't go into the dynamics of my dysfunctional family, but in general they would prefer that I go back to Europe because it's cheaper. (I'm applying for financial aid, but even so, as an EU citizen I could get a European education virtually free of charge.) I guess they've contributed to my self-conscious perfectionism by dispensing criticism, insults, and bouts of anger the way other parents do hugs and smiles and words of encouragement, but to attribute my SAT score to that would be a stretch, I think. </p>

<p>I've always been academically (self-)motivated. It just seemed logical that that would extend into SAT territory as well. Aside from that, considering how desperate I am to stay in this country, I'd say I have a bit of vested interest.</p>

<p>Sorry about the novel (and the bitterness, too, I'm not usually like this).</p>

<p>^what country are you from?</p>

<p>1500-1900??!!</p>

<p>Well those students then wont apply for aid and most probably apply to lower range college</p>

<p>i did fine n i wouldnt consider notre dame in the lower range.</p>

<p>megaman, I'm Swedish. It's not a cultural thing, if you're wondering... I just have a really messed up family.</p>