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Good point, perhaps the school practices severe grade inflation. Still doesn’t absolutely account for the obscure SAT score, but is a factor. Along with grade inflation, the teachers could also simply be very easy - I’ve had my fair share of “very easy” teachers in HS, which pretty much accounts for almost all I had except the AP sciences.</p>
<p>Would be interesting to see any AP scores vs. course grades and a ballpark on class rank. I’m inclined to agree with happymom that she should get some assessments. Sounds like she is putting a whole lot of energy into her grades but may have some more fundamental issues that hinder her abilities, esp. in the language processing arena. She may be doing just well enough to slip through the cracks, and may be well-served by a thorough assessment, a couple of years at a CC to improve her skills, and then she may be able to transfer to a state four-year. Her work effort seems nothing to sneeze at, and some folks here are definitely out of touch with the mainstream of normal, hardworking kids who have some significant testing/performance disparities.</p>
<p>There are CUNYs and CSUs where the OP’s friend would fall within the 25-50% range, albeit at the lower end. Looked on Collegeboard.com.</p>
<p>CSU Fullerton 25th percentile SAT: 890 (V+M), 1335 if the writing component is similar.
This student’s SAT is <em>way</em> lower – somewhere around 20 percentile rankings lower.</p>
<p>I have a 2.7 GPA but I have a 2280 on my SAT lol, and it’s gonna go past 23 the next time I take it.</p>
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<p>A GPA of 2.7 and SAT of 2280 can be a huge waving red flag for inattentive ADD. Maybe not in your specific case. But I’d suggest you take a look at the pattern of your grades. Is it a bunch of As and a bunch of Ds and not much in between? Were those As earned in classes where you just naturally “got” the teacher or the subject and the Ds earned in classes where you disliked the teacher and/or there was a lot of what seemed to by “busywork” to you so you never bothered to do it? If this is your situation, pop on by the counselors office when you get back to school and see if you can get help sorting things out before you graduate next spring. You want to have your academic act together before you get to college.</p>
<p>Maybe someone has already mentioned this, but Holy Cross in MA is a very good and highly respected college and they do not look at SAT scores. That being said, extracurriculars carry a lot of weight in their addmissions process, but its a school to think about.</p>
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You must be kidding. Or ■■■■■■■■ for work.</p>
<p>^ Well, no. One acquaintance of mine graduated with a sub-par GPA and a 2390. I found out only recently that he has ADD. I had thought he was just a goofy and very laid back guy.</p>
<p>What he ended up doing was excelling in advanced mathematics courses at a top national university his first year, then transferring to an Ivy League university for his second year by relying both on a high college GPA in specialized courses and on his high SAT score.</p>
<p>^ We know nothing about OP’s friend’ situation, so you can’t just judge her like that.</p>
<p>^ The poster is a chronic ■■■■■; just ignore.</p>
<p>I bombed the SAT and got my ACT report–conversion chart, it’s a SAT 1740. I’d recommend taking the ACT (I also have a grudge against the AP board–grrrr AP tests!). I’m more science/english oridented and I did WAY better on the ACT (SAT-1600 ACT converted is 1740).</p>
<p>Guys, I was exaggerating a bit, sorry haha. My accumulative GPA was 2.7 by the end of my Sophomore year, because B- was good enough for me, and B- was equivalent to a 2.67 GPA. In Junior year I started caring more and got a 3.8, so I have around a 3.1 accumulative now :)! Which is still rather low, but oh well, it’s not like I can do anything about it.</p>
<p>25th%tile scores:
Cal State Bakersfield: 380 CR/380 M
CSU LA: 350CR/380M/380CR
CSU Northridge: 410CR/400M
CSU San Bernardino: 470CR/400M/370CR</p>
<p>OP’s friend’s grades put her in the top 20-25% of the pool on that score.
Several of these CSUs say on CB that test scores are optional with a GPA>3.0. </p>
<p>Have no idea if the student lives in CA, but my point is that there are options in addition to CC, though if $$ is an issue, I’d strongly consider CC and transfer when this student has a good college-level track record.</p>
<p>I’m personally a bit sickened at the amount of bias that’s showing here based on the responses.</p>
<p>Sure, 1100 on the SAT is low, but let’s put a few things into perspective.</p>
<p>1.) CSU Fullerton and CSULA are dream schools for several people.
2.) There are some high schools where a 4.0 is really easy to achieve; most of us go to some of the top schools, so your 2.0 is equivalent to that 4.0. No kidding!
3.) The average SAT score nation-wide is supposed to be 1500.
4.) Only the top third of high school students go to a 4-year college (please verify, not sure if this is actually true)</p>
<p>As a personal anecdote, I spent my freshman year of high school at one of the worst-performing high schools in my state. When I got there, they really had no idea what to do with me, and at the end, I ended up taking most of my classes with juniors and seniors. It goes without saying, I eased through a 4.0 that year without even trying. The valedictorian failed to get into our state school, CU Boulder, and she ended up going to a community college. The attitude was focused on not dropping out, and getting admitted to any selective-admission college was exciting as a HYPMS admission would be here. The “smart” people were bragging about their then ~800 old SAT and ~16 ACT scores.</p>
<p>The situation got so bad that my parents decided that I needed to move and go to a better high school. So, after that year, my family and I packed up, moved 1000 miles, and a lot of new doors opened to me. My high school for the next three years had a completely different environment and may be very similar to the high schools that most people here went to. I would have never thought such a big difference was possible if I hadn’t experienced it myself. So, next time, don’t take things for granted.</p>
<p>OP’s story is completely congruent and would fit in perfectly with the situation at my former high school. I suggest community college.</p>
<p>As noted earlier there are many fine colleges that do not require the SAT or the ACT. You can add Franklin & Marshall and Bates to those mentioned earlier with the full list on the fair test website.</p>
<p>Having said that I would suggest a retake after some practice tests as taking these tests is something that you can get better at. The ACT being content based is also something to try.</p>
<p>Good luck.</p>
<p>Well the person who was under the valedictorian at my school got a 19 on the ACT however her GPA was high but not a 4.00. They took harder classes than I did though.
now I think sometimes sudents do bad on the test because of the time linits or they test badly.</p>
<p>But you can’t say and high GPA and a low SAT is normal. I took the collegeboard online PSAT test and got a 1650 my real ACT was 24, and my GPA was around 3.00.</p>
<p>the main idea you should be really considering is to go to the library
and study your butt off for the upcoming months heading into the sat test</p>
<p>I have Asperger’s and have high GPA. I ca not take standardized tests worth a darn. The SATs are worse because I don’t know how to second guess what some guy who wrote the test thinks is the best answer. </p>
<p>Please don’t assme that high SATs mean you are smart or are the only ones who can do the work. It’s only the truly ignorant who assume.</p>
<p>ps please pardon the typos. On a cell w/ very small keys and Dad keeps hitting the brakes!</p>
<p>I might be wrong, and I don’t mean that sarcastically at all, but I thought they lowered the range for testing on the SAT. When I took the test my Junior year (2007), I could almost swear that it’s now 1600. At any rate, your friend might be able to enrole at the university or college of her choice and do some placement testing. That way, she wouldn’t have to transfer.</p>