<p>im also confused about the ed?</p>
<p>Recruited athletes are pressured by coaches to make a committment to attend the school. The coach wants to be certain the student will be coming to the school before they use thier “influence” with the admissions office. So, they get kids to apply ED.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, this does not always work in favor of the student and heavily favors the school. Student athletes need to be aware of certain issues when making committments to coaches and to schools which are not relevent to other types of situations. That’s all.</p>
<p>I do not consider Richmond a “third-tier” school.</p>
<p>Coldwinter…your thread could just as easily be called “More debt or less debt”…it’s your choice. How much debt do you want to be in when you graduate from undergrad school?</p>
<p>re: ""So if you were to have a career-ending injury your first year, then for years 2,3 and 4 you would find yourself paying the same amount of money for the UR as for D, “”</p>
<p>Per NCAA Bylaw 15.3.4, athletically-related financial aid shall not be increased, reduced, or canceled during the period of an award:
*On the basis of the student-athlete’s athletic ability or contribution to a team’s success;
*Due to an injury that prevents the student-athlete from participating in athletics; or,
For any other athletically-related reason.</p>
<p>Athletics aid may be reduced or cancelled immediately if the student-athlete:
*Becomes ineligible for intercollegiate competition;
*Fraudulently misrepresents any information on an application, letter of intent, or official University records;
*Engages in serious misconduct warranting substantial disciplinary penalty; or,
*Voluntarily withdraws from a sport for personal reasons</p>
<p>Most coaches “medical hardship=redshirt” injured scholarship players while they rehab,so no eligible years are lost.
Career ending injury scholarship players become non counter scholarships, allowing the athlete to graduate.</p>
<p>An Ivy League player may, when injured, go home to rehab, so they would not have to pay for school/while not playing.</p>
<p>I agree, Richmond is a great school.
I’d save money for grad school.</p>
<p>author…the key is that the “period of an award” is one year. Athletic scholarships are not guaranteed for four years – they are renewed annually. If the OP had a career-ending injury during his freshman season, he may not get the athletic scholarship for his remaining years at the school.</p>
<p>Coldwinter - among the Ivy’s, H P & Y are typically known as being most generous with financial aid. If you’re being heavily recruited by Dartmouth, have you also had conversations with coaches at these other schools? If you haven’t already investigated the possibilities at the other schools, you might want to, to make sure you’re getting the best financial package you can get.</p>
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I don’t agree at all. In this case the “less debt” is contingent on playing the sport. It is a very heavy commitment to make.</p>
<p>check out curmudgeon’s threads - his D got into elite schools, including Yale, and turned them down in favor of a small school with a 100% scholarship. Last spring she graduated, debt free, and is now in med school at… Yale.</p>
<p>^ that was a merit award, not an athletic scholarship - there’s a big difference!</p>
<p>nngmm…the impression <em>I</em> got from the OP was asking this question due to the finances of the situation…scholarship at Richmond or NOT at Dartmouth. I understand your point about athletic scholarships being “different” but the reality is a more generous offer means less debt…and whether it’s a merit award or an athletic scholarship, it’s saving the kiddo money.</p>
<p>If the student wants to be a college athlete and wants the money to do so…and feels that it’s worth it to save the money that would be spent on Dartmouth…then go for Richmond. It’s a fine school.</p>
<p>And one will save this OP money. The other won’t.</p>
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<p>The Cornell alumni network is helpful in part because it is huge – simply because Cornell is huge, by private school standards. We Cornellians are everywhere, and we’re predisposed to hire each other.</p>
<p>Dartmouth is a lot smaller. </p>
<p>Another point: Part of your decision may depend on what you plan to do after college. If you intend to go to some type of graduate or professional school that you have to pay for (medical, veterinary, law, or business school), minimizing your undergraduate debt is a very high priority. If you’re planning to get a Ph.D. (where you will be supported by a teaching or research assistantship during graduate school) or to enter the job market right after graduation, a moderate amount of undergraduate debt may be less of an issue.</p>
<p>Off topic a bit, but in my opinion, the size of the alumni network dilutes it.
Here in Chicago, being a Northwestern or University of Chicago grad are not distinguishing characteristics. Over half the people one knows in employment circles are from those schools. I have never seen this work to an applicant’s advantage. So what? Maybe if you were from Dartmouth, Williams or Swarthmore…? Even Cornell might work better than the U of C or Northwestern.</p>
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<p>Just wanted to pop in here as the OP of the thread happymom linked to (“Top Student at a Third Tier School”). Let me know if you have any questions! </p>
<p>I also agree with others that you should consider the “what will happen if I get injured–or something else happens–and can’t play?” possibility, as unpleasant as it may be to think about.</p>
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<p>And a lot more devoted. And very well placed.</p>
<p>If your parents are willing and able to pay the $10K per year difference, I’d go to D in a heartbeat. But I’m prejudiced. :)</p>