<p>def454: “i would still love to hear about the other schools you would consider comparable”</p>
<p>I would consider Kelley closer to the business programs at USC, Notre Dame, Cornell, Emory, Washington or Georgetown than anything in the first post.</p>
<p>The thing about the first post is that you mention Kelley like it’s a side-note and then talk about what lesser programs are “known” for, when really Kelley is probably the most well-known of those business programs by a considerable margin. I remember seeing something written by someone doing business at Wisconsin talking about how hard it is to get a foot in the door at decent companies that would be coming to you if you got into a workshop at Indiana. Saying Vermont is “known” at all is an oxymoron, the only person I know who went to Tulane had a lower three-section SAT score than my math/reading composite, and a friend of mine here who’s paying out-of-state to escape Maryland would laugh at you if you called it a respected program.</p>
<p>EDIT: The list in the post above this one makes more sense than yours. Virginia and UNC are probably a bit better than Indiana, and Illinois and OSU are probably a little lesser, but the entire list is better, because the programs actually fit what jjk is looking for (competitive/large), include a couple top programs and a few that are each a couple steps down but have their strengths.</p>
<p>def454, if you go to Kelley, also try to get into the Hutton Honors College. That will enable you to take honors financial and managerial accounting, two honors technology classes, and the two honors communications classes. The honors classes are very small and have the top students and professors. It takes about 1350+ SAT and top 5% hs class ranking to get into Hutton. The investment banking workshops will get you interviews with top companies if you are accepted into the program, which is very difficult to get into. Kelley accounting and finance are both top ten in the country. Given these advantages and the guaranteed admission to the business school and IU’s automatic $9,000 scholarship, it is difficult to do much better than Kelley for undergraduate business. An alternative to a finance internship is to spend the summer after freshman year taking finance classes at the London School of Economics. It looks very impressive on your resume, and a lot of IBW students have done that instead of, or in addition to, a finance internship.
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<p>I’ve never heard of a Kelley program that had a tie with LSE, so I think you would have to apply to LSE on your own. While it will be nice to be in the Hutton Honors College, i doubt there will be a huge difference, your performance will be based on how dedicated you are. I’d aim for the Mittie Honors business program instead.</p>
<p>It is easy to be in both Hutton and Kelley honors, and most of the investment banking workshop students are in both. A big advantage to being in both is that you can’t take the honors versions of I-core prerequisites in Kelley your freshman year unless you are in Hutton.</p>
<p>Also, Kelley sanctions Butler University’s overseas program for the London School of Economics, and even provides a link on the Kelley websites to scholarships for study through Butler. </p>
<p>Slightly off subject, but I wouldn’t look too hard at bulge bracket I-banking unless you knew that was what you wanted to do and wouldn’t accept working for a boutique i-bank. </p>
<p>Most companies are going to wait to go public and in 4 years I doubt business will have picked up that much, so there will be less need for i-banking. There are also fewer ‘big boys’ than there were just 3 years ago and thus a ton fewer job opportunities. </p>
<p>With credit tightened like it is, venture capital and private equity firms are going to be the way companies are going to raise capital for the next several years. I would look there for internships in addition to i-banks. If you want to work else where in finance, hedge funds are still making money and botique ibanks that specialize in restructuring are making a killing so they may be looking for interns.</p>
<p>I do think the Investment Banking workshop at Kelley seems worthwhile. LSE would look great on a resume but I have seen more good (and jobs) come out of summer internships than anything else.</p>
<p>School-wise, I’d definitely put Kelley at the top but for Finance Tulane’s Freeman might get the edge. Kelley is going to be better known and is probably the best ‘rounded’ business school. This is mainly due to Tulane’s weak marketing department.</p>
<p>what surprises me about these threads is that many of you dotn seem to realize how easy kelley is to get into. I would have no chance at virginia, usc, or georgetown. I have a 91/100 weighted gpa and a 1370 SAT and got direct admit to kelley. This place is not that difficult to get into. UVA, Georgetown, and usc woudl all demand a 95+. I understand that kelley ahs a strong reputation, I just don’t understand how it is considered on par wioth the programs I lsited above.</p>
<p>by the way, I am not necessarily interested in investment banking in anay way at all. i am mroe interested in management/ consulting. I was considering adding finance as a double to make myself mroe analytical.</p>
<p>I think what defines a good school is not so much how hard it is to gain acceptance or the ‘relative quality’ of the students as much as it is about the opportunities present at the school. So specific course offerings, unique programs, competitions and conferences that bring in students and experts in respective fields to the university ect. are going to help you more in your career than anything else. Kelley does all of that well as do a lot of other schools like USC, NYU, Tulane, ect. In terms of your acceptance, schools are simply set up differently. At Tulane, you used to be required to have two years of undergrad completed before you would be accepted into their business school. It may still be that way there. Other universities offer business majors acceptance upon acceptance to the university. </p>
<p>I addressed I-banking because it was brought up by other posters and just wanted to offer my take. Consulting-wise, I know there are record layoffs currently, but it will bounce back much more quickly than the financial sector. Best of luck. Take everything on CC with more than a grain of salt. :)</p>
<p>Kelley is relatively easy to get into because it is absolutely huge. Like Benetode says, there are lots of different opportunities in some schools. There are seven hundred declared finance majors and almost 5,000 students in Kelley. But there are programs that distinguish the top students for the average students. Business honors is 130 students in each graduating class. Also, the majority of finance majors in Kelley have no chance of being one of the thirty people who get into the investment banking workshop each year. You can see the resumes of people in the investment banking workshop here. They chose Kelley, probably to attend the workshop, but they could get into a lot of higher ranked schools.
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