I was hoping that we might not need 340 millions vaccine shots if 20% or so of the population has had the virus already by the time we find a cure but maybe it’s wishful thinking on my part!
I personally know someone who was infected with covid twice, 6 weeks apart. Both times with severe symptoms and both times with the confirmed covid positive tests. She was also antibody positive just a few weeks before the second confirmed covid test. She works for a nursing home so she was tested twice a week as per requirement.
That’s not good at all…
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I certainly hope no one is interpreting anything I may have said as “knocking” Florida. Most of the comments I’ve read IIRC were suggesting that there was actually a fair degree of mitigation going on in Florida despite its ostensibly being “open”. Both things can be true.
@circuitrider I didn’t mean to single out anything you wrote as assuming your motivations at all. You are highly reasoned and articulate. That’s why I didn’t copy the post or attribute to you.
Outside of the comment, which I borrowed and should have used one of the dozens and dozens of others, there’s a lot of Florida focus and shots taken at them on many threads here.
I personally wonder why the search for what might have worked for them or hope it stays fairly in check, doesn’t take on the same level of eagerness as combing the internet for anything that can somehow find fault.
California is seeing an uptick. NY NJ and Mass have had lots of problems. Lots of places seem to be on the rise. Only reasonable to see case rise considering there’s still virus and humans are interacting again, even if at lower levels.
Texas and Florida get a lot of grief which seems unrelated to the problems at hand. And they are our brothers and sisters too.
You would have to ask the jobs or schools that may require such a vaccine.
I’ve seen a number of polls and best case 50% of people say they will get the vaccine. Infants, very elderly, immunecompromised likely won’t be able to get it either.
Cities sometimes also make restrictions.
Some college campuses are in multiple jurisdictions. For example, Stanford’s campus is mostly in unincorporated Santa Clara County, but some parts of it (e.g. the hospital) are in the city of Palo Alto, so there could be Palo Alto rules that apply only to part of Stanford’s campus.
Ever since the 2009 novel H1N1 flu virus, that virus or variants have been one of the three or four target flu viruses in seasonal flu vaccines since then.
The poll that I saw found that about half would get it, about a fifth would not get it, and the rest are not sure.
The groups who would be medically unable to get the vaccine would depend on the vaccine, since different vaccines have different groups in the medically disallowed list.
It may not matter much, as the expert panel the NY Times convened for its Sunday magazine thought a vaccine would not happen in a year from now. Much longer timeframe.
I dont know who these ny times experts are, but my colleagues and I are working very hard on getting the first batch of vaccines for emergency use by end of this year if everything goes as plan. There maybe still roadblocks ahead in the next 6 months, but so far things has gone as planned. We are 2 months ahead of schedule.
We partnered with 2 US manufacturing facilities in the US, signing contracts and ramping up manufacturing capabilities to start production at risk from September. When I hear people say it will be years before we have the vaccines, i wonder what they actually know that i don’t know??? Of course things may still go wrong, but my knowledge is from hands on experience, not from opinions or guesses.
I am glad for you, and hope you succeed, but you of course know that even if you do, the process of manufacturing and delivering 300 million doses is daunting at best
Yes it is daunting, that’s why we partner with multiple external manufactures, in the US and abroad. We hope to have 1 billion doses by mid 2021. And we are not the only company that is doing this. 6-7 companies are making amazing progress. With all the companies combined, and IF all are going as plan, sure big if, we should have 4 billion doses by end of 2021…that’s the talks among our colleagues anyway
Edit to correct typo lol, 2021
Sure hope it’s a typo:-)
Not all affluent children will be fine, I will be paying for a LAC college, property taxes in excess of 16 K a year and now I should find a tutor for my hs 10th grader? And I would be consider solid upper middle class for my state
Great info about vaccine!
I may be wrong but we don’t need to expect all 300 mil people to get vaccinated, correct? We just need to target certain groups of people to vaccine, about 60-70% of 300 mil? Certainly, schools can mandate their students to get a vaccination to enroll with some health-related exceptions once vaccines are widely available.
Oh I agree your situation is not good. But at the end of the day, you are likely to find a way for your kid not to fall behind, regardless of the public education offered. That isn’t true in many low SES homes.
My D is a kindergarten teacher at a public charter school here in San Diego. Her school district is not going back to the classroom in the fall with kids in masks and social distancing requirements. The district thinks teachers will spend too much time policing kids to keep masks on and stay apart versus teaching. The school district is also concerned about keeping classrooms clean as well as how to do recess and lunch.
D has decided she will contact each family of her 20 new kindergartens to set up a distance visit this summer so she can meet the kids and their families before online teaching begins in late August.
@privatebanker My comments regarding Florida were not meant to be political in any way. I think most folks are concerned about their home state first and then their child’s college state next, but the virus knows no boundaries and so a surge in a state far away from your interests can certainly impact your state down the road. So I’m looking for all states to proceed with caution. In the case of Florida, they were one of the later states to put stay in place orders in place, as well as one of the first to remove them and did so before they reached the CDC metrics. Now they are having a big surge, so I respectfully disagree with you that they are doing pretty well’. When I contrast what Gov Baker or Cuomo are saying/doing to Gov DeSantis or Ducey in AZ, it sounds very different and it makes me nervous.