Ha! Good theory!
cross-posted by a factor of six.
why is nobody talking about Liberty and how they brought kids back and had no issues
http://www.liberty.edu/news/index.cfm?PID=18495&MID=379732
@wisteria100, I brought D20 to the Dr. this week. They have a completely separate entrance and waiting area for well visits and sick visits. No modifications to exam room.
From Lafayette, a typical plan:
The semester will begin two weeks early, on August 17, with classes ending on Friday, November 20. Students will leave campus for Thanksgiving break and return just prior to the start of the spring semester.
• Testing, monitoring, contact tracing, physical distancing, and safety training will be employed to reduce the risk of the virus spreading on campus.
• Courses will be offered in flexible, hybrid formats to ensure continuity of experience for all students throughout the semester.
• Additional investments in technology, training, and student services will support flexible course design and prioritize equity in access to resources and the learning experience.
With Harvard (and, most likely Yale) fractalizing its student body and scaling up its distance learning to a level unimagined only a few weeks ago, does anyone else feel this takes the weight off a lot of other high maintenance colleges, especially in the wake of future pandemics? Or, is it still a matter of “Only Harvard, Yale and MIT have the market power to pull this off?”
What if this became a permanent solution for families occupying the proverbial “donut hole” in terms of need-based aid: three years on-campus and a junior year at home instead of the traditional junior year abroad?
I believe only 1200 of the 8000 normal Liberty residential students came back. That’s 15% of students, which is not a good comparison of what most colleges are trying to do. There are actually many universities that kept kids on campus throughout spring semester, as they could not go back home.
Liberty is a school where they teach creationism… Hardly a credible source of any information, much less science-oriented…
An interesting idea, especially that last paragraph. Kind of like a more expensive and selective community college solution: two years of CC, two years of a 4 year research U. Here you’d have 1 year at home, three years at Fancy Pants Ivy.
That doesn’t matter. If they managed to bring back students and not have outbreaks, then we should look at what they did and see if it would apply to other schools.
Last I heard they’d brought back students and a dozen or so tested positive.
It doesn’t matter what they teach -they are a residential college, so any success (or failure) they may have had with students on campus regarding Covid would have been good information. However, as I mentioned, they only brought back 15% of residential students, so it doesn’t really tell us much about what things are looking like in the residential post-Covid college experience.
I knew I’d get beat up for my Liberty comment… perhaps deservedly so. (I still wouldn’t trust anything coming out of that establishment, but you all probably have a more productive attitude.)
Hm sorry about the incorrect Maine number. It’s like the phone game over here with S19 and his friends. One friend hears one thing tells one friend and on and on until that number is completely incorrect. And there might be some wishful thinking in there too I guess.
Here is an excellent article written by a Yale student which sums up my feelings about the difficulties in bringing kids back to campus:
https://insidehighered.com/views/2020/06/10/student-writes-open-letter-administrators-her-concerns-about-reopening-campuses?fbclid=IwAR0x15s4JeD5R6iuUybmKXc-DSmMncc00Zymwo3fTtADI2KGxJ15YKulbMY
A University of Chicago study revealed that 76% of US doctors claim to believe in God–a percentage higher than the general population.
@Debbeut I am so exhausted by articles in Inside Higher Ed. Do they just publish the most gloomy articles they can find? Good to know that a Yale student has no idea how kids or professors can stay safe and healthy. I guess she hasn’t been in the bazillion meetings that the colleges’ committees have been having for the last three months or seen all of the data they are pulling together.
@Debbeut wrote:
This Bulldog may get her wish, as it is highly unlikely Yale will invite the entire school back for the Fall. Also, this is one of the saddest laments I’ve heard so far:
It could be worse, DD. You could be going to Harvard. 
Schools are planning on extracurrulars in some form. Bates just said they will do the two classes at a time for 7 week mini-semesters. Lots of reasons but one of them was that, for them to do four classes, they’d have to add class sections from 4:30-9:00pm on weekdays and that’s when clubs and activities meet. They decided to preserve that time so students still can have those opportunities.
This^^^ is in response to the Yale student’s lament. She’s just not right about how life on campus this fall could be.
Well here’s one that is not from Inside Higher Ed. And I have to say I agree that it is delusional to think that students will really social distance after the first few minutes. I’m not saying I have the answer, but it is naive to think that there will not be outbreaks: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/15/opinion/coronavirus-college-safe.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share