School in the 2020-2021 Academic Year & Coronavirus (Part 1)

These rooms are what I’ve heard folks saying are in short supply.

Thank you so much for that very clear answer. :slight_smile:

At Penn State (I learned this in a tweet) students will not be allowed to interact in person with other students during class. No class discussion will be allowed in person, only online.

The tweeter said, “Just move it online,” and I agree.

One issue I’m concerned about is what will happen if certain professors refuse to be recorded, likely due to intellectual property concerns? One of D’s profs has never permitted recording of her lectures, and so in the spring did not do Zoom class meetings. She just assigned reading and written work and held Zoom office hours. That was okay for then, but D has her again this fall for a required, difficult senior seminar. D did not do well with remote learning with profs who basically stopped teaching.

I could be wrong but I got the impression that Bowdoin is doing an analysis for the upperclassmen and making sure international students (and anyone else taking class remotely) will have classes to finish their major requirements but they are not intending all classes to be available remotely. It’s been a month since the last virtual town hall but they said something about students choosing half online courses and half in person if they are on campus. So the in person classes won’t be chosen by those not in Brunswick. Maybe the in person classes will be continued by those sick in the same way they’ve always been if a student can’t make it to class. And I guess that depends on the class. Anyway, if this ends up being the plan, it will be a departure from what we’ve seen from other schools so far.

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Could you put the link here?

One would think this, but I’m not at all sure it’s true in our case. There are competing interests at work that make all of these things extremely complicated, which is probably why our school has not announced even tentative plans as yet. Everything is still very vague.

email update from my D20’s chosen school (Simmons University) painted a pretty glum picture. Classes are either going to be all online or else there will be a significantly diminished res life experience (I’m paraphrasing, obviously, but the goal of the email was obviously to paint a realistic picture of what the options are). :frowning:

I’m supposing some kind of live-streaming thing like our churches were doing with services. Perhaps the students would need a permission to log in. Perish the thought that I would be live-streamed out over planet earth, lol!

That would be an example of someone who thinks a bit too highly of themselves.

Carry on.

The problem I have here is that I have zero idea what I need. That would be for IT people to figure out. I have no expertise in media production (presumably why you hire IT people!). It has been hinted that if we have to do our lectures from home, we’re on our own as far as equipment, so it could be rough.

I don’t think we’re allowed to link tweets. But on Twitter, Kathleen E. Kennedy, an associate professor at Penn State Brandywine, wrote:

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Just a note: many online classes are taught asynchronously (no Zoom). That in no way means the instructor has stopped teaching. It is quite possible to run a class with all sorts of instruction and interaction that does not include synchronous technology. In fact, until recently that was the norm for online classes.

That Penn State tweet echoes some of my questions about f2f classes. For me, mine are very hands-on and collaborative; a SD, masked class would not come near how my (successful, popular) classes work. Group work would have to go through technology (googledocs, discussion boards) as they couldn’t sit close enough to confer. Pair work, same thing. Collaborating over shared documents, peer review, and other activities will not happen the way they would in a normal world classroom, nor could my circulating the room, mini-conferences at my desk, check-ins with individual students before and after, etc.

This is why, though I know some of my typical teaching may get lost in online classes, I know that, sadly, it would be also lost in Covid-world f2f.

As I said, the teacher held office hours over Zoom, but otherwise just assigned work. Feedback on that work could be labeled teaching, but there were no longer any lectures or group discussions or the typical interactions one normally expects from class at an LAC.

Actually, I think the prof is smart. Once schools get too used to the idea of recorded lectures broadcast to paying customers, the professors start contributing to their own demise. Record once, sell year after year. Hire TA’s to grade and run the school like Coursera.

I’m sorry but I really don’t understand this. You can’t tell someone to pack their bags and leave when they are living off campus in an apartment with a lease.

Can you expel an off campus student for failure to quarantine when told to? Maybe, if that is written into school policies with a clear consequence of what happens is a student fails to follow policy. I guess we’ll see if schools will attempt to go this far.

Omg. I just read that to S19 and we are dying. He wants to know what happens if someone turns their head to greet a classmate. Do snipers swoop in? What does PSU not get about the point of having a class in person. Ridiculous.

Unfortunately, no direct flights on Southwest from LAX to Raleigh.

Is it possible that professor was just greatly exaggerating because they were irked? If what the professor is saying is true, that’s crazy. Wondering who Penn State will appoint to be the “social interaction police”. Lol

If you catch them not quarantining you can say, “Goodbye. You’re expelled.” And in schools with honor codes, where students are required to report behavior that is against the honor code, and where some students would reasonably not want to be infected by jerks who refuse to quarantine/isolate, you could expect to hear about it if someone refused to isolate.

If every prof at that college behaves the same way, they are all contributing to the colleges demise if online only continues (which it likely will - at least partially) for the next few semesters. No one is paying for courses without instruction.