@wisteria100 Bowdoin too. Everyone gets a flu shot.
So the order includes: Outdoor exercise with a group in any form is prohibited for anyone 18-22
Where will the Colorado football team be going to practice now that the PAC-12 has resurrected their football season?
CU football team is not allowed to practice for the next two weeks. Doesn’t matter that Pac-12 is restarting.
@wisteria100 haverford requires all students to have a flu shot this year, and on campus students are getting it on campus on assigned days.
@wisteria100 – Yale started administering this past Monday in the residential colleges where COVID testing is performed. They are available from 8am to 7pm for several days in each college, no appointment needed.
Editing to add that flu shots are required for all students on & off campus who wish to have any access to campus. The same is true for the twice weekly COVID testing.
Well their first game is not until November 6th so I think they will be ok…
Regarding Boulder’s harsh ordinance for 18-21 year olds, this is what happens when you have total disregard for modifying your behavior during a pandemic. The few CA kids we know at CU-Boulder have had CV-19 already while at school and said that there is partying everywhere (i.e. most students could care less about social distancing, mask wearing, etc.).
I do feel bad for the students who were complying earlier in the school year and the local businesses lost revenue, but the alternative to this new strict ordinance could be the virus spreading like wild fire in your community and if that happens, no one is going to be visiting you restaurants, shops, etc.
IMO, Boulder needed to show that they are serious about controlling CV-19 in their community and this is a wake-up call to all of the 18-21 year olds.
College students cannot act like it is Fall of 2019…you need to act responsibly or your freedoms could be restricted.
But it’s not college students. It’s every 18 to 22-year-old that lives in Boulder. It makes no sense whatsoever. Quarantine entire buildings where a health issue is suspected- fine, makes sense. Arbitrarily restricting movement of a specific age range in an entire city is discriminatory. There’s no “yeah, but” about it.
Just over a week ago, my son’s college in NY started a weekly flu shot clinic on campus. My son just got his shot at this week’s clinic. New this academic year, in order to return to campus for spring semester, all students are required NLT January 15 (?) to upload proof of their flu shot to their student portal. I had planned to have him get it when he comes home at Thanksgiving, but rumors of possible shortages had me rethinking waiting that long. When I heard his campus was having the weekly clinics, I told him to get one this week before it slipped my mind so he got it this week.
I’m not sure about my daughter’s campus in CA. They have limited students on campus and most classes are remote. They haven’t sent anything out about flu vaccines, but she has a RiteAid across from her apartment so she will get one there whether her campus requires it or not.
Rhode Island was on the naughty list all summer, through no fault of college students (since they were not on campus). College students were hurt by this when they were required to get testing or quarantine when coming to Mass or other states because RI was on the naughty list. So they suffered too because of what others were doing in state.
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It’s true that earlier this summer RI was just marginally over the number of cases per capita that the 3 states have as their quarantine hurdle, and those cases were from people across all age groups, including college-aged. I don’t really see how our college students (including my own!) were disproportionately or unfairly hurt this summer relative to other people in other age groups in RI. But the point is, RI worked very hard and made lots of sacrifices to get those numbers lower and has been off the quarantine list for those states. Then the PC outbreak happened, and that aberrant 200 bonus cases are what put RI back on the list.
My reason for mentioning this is that for a while I’ve had a back-and-forth dialogue in my head wondering if it really matters if these college kids spread Covid amongst themselves IF (gigantic if) they don’t pass it on to the community. My concern about it rises and falls, but I’ve always focused on whether there is community spread as the way college outbreaks can harm the surrounding community. It never occurred to me until now that the outbreaks can have other ramifications even if there’s ZERO community spread. In this case, no grannies have to be hospitalized for there to be a negative impact on the community. Now, it is interesting to realize that if they never tested these kids at PC, and it never leaked out to the broader community, then there would have been no harm to the community both in terms of spread AND in terms of statistics which drove the new quarantine order. But RI is big on testing—it actually has the highest per capita testing rate in the nation. So it’s not going to avoid testing to hide those stats, of course. But just wanted to note that there are multiple ways that college outbreaks can affect the community.
Division I Football isn’t a sport you just “start playing”. If it was, the games would resume much sooner than November 6th. Losing 40% of the lead time is a health risk for the CU players, and eliminates any cushion should they experience an outbreak in the few weeks they have to prepare.
If Boulder was serious about controlling COVID in their community, they would have pushed the administration to be remote before the semester started. No surprise that a well known party school has issues of partying.
The vast majority of 18-21 year olds that live in Boulder are college students (UC-Boulder has 30,000 undergrads). The city only has a population of 97K. It’s a college town and the town is trying to control the virus amongst a population of young adults who are not following the rules. If a few non-students 18-21 year olds are impacted, its an unfortunate necessity. Also, there are plenty of non-college 18-21 year olds also having parties, not social distancing, etc., it’s not 100% strictly a college problem.
I hear ya, SoCal, but I have to agree with SuzyQ on this one. This edict doesn’t feel right. I think the administration of the school should have figured out how to come down hard on the students since the students signed their community compact. The administrators should have taken action, disciplining the students, sending them home (after a negative test), doing widespread mandatory testing on campus, etc…the city of Boulder shouldn’t have been put in the position where they would have even had to come up with this inappropriate rule. But the rule does seem inappropriate to me.
But I will add that I’ve heard the same as you—wanton disregard for the pandemic. All 3 kids I know at the school also tested positive, and also apparently were not even attempting social distancing. Tough situation!!
Especially a party school where most of the fraternities are completely off-campus organizations because they do not want to abide by the campus’ rules for recognition or status as a affiliated student groups.
Elon implements “social hiatus” to slow COVID-19 on main campus.
The following measures are in effect on Elon’s main campus beginning 5 p.m., Friday, Sept. 25, and through end of day Wednesday, Sept. 30:
Dining: All dining service will be grab-and-go starting with dinner tonight, Friday, September 25, through Wednesday evening. There will be no seating in dining halls. Please use outdoor tents, patio tables or other spaces where you can safely remove your mask to eat and stay distanced from others.
Residence Halls and Apartments: No visitors are allowed in residence hall rooms or apartments on campus. Students are only be allowed to enter their own residential facility.
Travel: Non-essential travel to and from campus should be limited. Public health tells us we can limit spread by staying on campus and limiting interactions.
Phoenix Athletics: Intercollegiate athletics activities and operations remain suspended.
Club Sports: All Club Sports, intramurals, and Elon Outdoors trips are suspended. Campus Recreation remains open with limited operations under the current safety precautions and protocols.
Campus events and activities: All scheduled in-person campus events are being reviewed to assess risk and may proceed only with express permission of Student Life (for student organization activities) or department chairs or directors (for university-sponsored events).
https://www.elon.edu/u/news/2020/09/25/september-25-update-about-ready-resilient-policy-changes/
The City did press CU Boulder to be remote, but the school promised rigorous testing, strict discipline, and many other details in order to manage the spread, but CU and the students didn’t follow through.
It looks like this is a “town and gown” problem where the city had finally had enough and pulled the big lever to get CU’s attention. I’m sure CU will layoff a lot of people next week to flex their importance to the community.
No one should have to hire a lawyer to interpret a simple health code. Three separate categories of young adults with overlapping penalties for similar conduct - along with their parents and next of kin? I agree with you that it’s confusing.
I can’t recall a situation where on your birthday you gain and lose freedoms. In Boulder, on your 18th birthday you can go to war and vote for a President, but you can no longer hang out with your friends uptown. To do that…you have to drive to the next town over?
I agree that there is something incongruous about not wanting to enforce mask-wearing and social distancing rules because they take away your fundamental freedoms, but it’s okay to discriminate against an entire class of Americans on the basis of age.
Anyone who is willing to read the health order at https://assets.bouldercounty.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/pho-2020-07-09232020.pdf should be able to understand (without needing a lawyer) that:
- Anyone age 18-22 cannot be part of any gathering outside their household, except for work, school, court-ordered activities, or life rites.
- Residents of the listed properties (many of which are fraternity houses) may not leave except to seek medical care, obtain necessary supplies by curbside pickup or contact delivery, do solitary exercise with mask on, vote in the general election, or (with notice and permission) relocate to a different residence (and not return during the duration of the order).
- CU students must monitor health for COVID-19 symptoms. If they develop symptoms or have a positive COVID-19 test, they must report to CU's health check web site and self-isolate.
Those who fall into more than one of these categories would be subject to all of the restrictions that apply to each category that they are in.
Yeah, the order is very clear. Fortunately most folks in Boulder aren’t twisting themselves in pretzels to invent ways it can be confused.
Likely, if there’s any confusion at the edges, enforcement will take an educational approach as they did in the spring (you know, for the occasional heimlich or whatever other nonsense CC can come up with).
Those interested in the context might want to look at the county dashboard:
https://www.bouldercounty.org/families/disease/covid-19/covid-19-illness-and-recovery/
Note the graph of infections by age group.
Would those complaining about the narrow targeting prefer a stay at home order for everyone? Because that’s likely the next step if this doesn’t work.