<p>Regarding the list of PA schools - there were some on that list that I am familiar with and did not think they had a music degree. So I double checked a few. Cedar Crest does not offer a degree in music at all. York College offers a BA in music for vocal performance. Univ. of Scranton only offers a minor in music. Wilkes College offers a minor in music and a major in musical theater.</p>
<p>Here is what I found for those schools, which differs from what you found (It can be tricky navigating websites; I just google “name of school music”):
[Cedar</a> Crest College Catalog • Music – Major/Minor](<a href=“http://www.cedarcrest.edu/ca/catalog2010_2011/music-major-minor.shtm]Cedar”>Cedar Crest College Catalog • Music – Major/Minor)
[Music</a> Majors | Music, Art & Communication Dept | York College of Pennsylvania](<a href=“http://www.ycp.edu/academics/academic-departments/communication-and-the-arts/division-of-music/]Music”>http://www.ycp.edu/academics/academic-departments/communication-and-the-arts/division-of-music/)
[Wilkes</a> Music](<a href=“http://www.wilkes.edu/pages/539.asp]Wilkes”>http://www.wilkes.edu/pages/539.asp)</p>
<p>For U. of Scranton, you are right: minor in music history, no major, but a section on
“performance music”
[Performance</a> Music: Academics: The University of Scranton](<a href=“http://www.scranton.edu/academics/performance-music/]Performance”>Performance Music | Academics | The University of Scranton)
So either things have changed since the publication of the book I referenced, or this is considered a “music program” of sorts.</p>
<p>This book has been very helpful to many people I know with kids in music,dance, theater, art, writing, but the screening methods are not delineated clearly. It is a good place to start.</p>
<p>For Cedar Crest I found in the 2012-2013 catalog [Cedar</a> Crest College Catalog ? 2012-2013](<a href=“Cedar Crest College Catalog • 2012-2013”>Cedar Crest College Catalog • 2012-2013)</p>
<p>For Wilkes, this came from their current website [Wilkes</a> Majors/Minors](<a href=“http://www.wilkes.edu/pages/143.asp]Wilkes”>http://www.wilkes.edu/pages/143.asp)</p>
<p>Perhaps Wilkes and Cedar Crest eliminated their programs last year?</p>
<p>You are right about York - I just typed in york.edu. Who knew there was a York College in Nebraska? That was the one I picked up, my error.</p>
<p>I believe the Scranton performance music page is just mentioning the extra curricular ensembles they offer. My D had been invited to participate as they noted from her application that she had many years of music background. They are not for credit nor do they count toward a degree.</p>
<p>There is also a York College in NYC. So the one in PA is “York College of PA” but since I typed 62 schools, I left it out!</p>
<p>The “Creative Colleges” book is from 2010. I loaned a more recent one to a friend. hard to believe that Cedar Crest has eliminated a music major!</p>
<p>The link I posted for Scranton made it clear (as I had hoped I had, sorry) that the “performance music” is not a degree program, and either it is excellent and for some reason made it into the book, or the book is outdated in 3 years. Or, again, not totally clear how the listings get into the book.</p>
<p>The best source is people like yourself who have some knowledge of the schools, and the original poster him or herself, who hopefully knows some of them, can investigate, and clarify what he/she wants. Thought the list might suggest something helpful, but don’t want to send anyone on the wrong path.</p>
<p>Thanks for making the task a little more accurate!</p>
<p>I did some brief browsing of the schools Compmom listed. Allegheny, Lehigh and Franklin and Marshall all offer non audition BA’s in music.
[Music</a> | Allegheny College - Meadville, PA](<a href=“http://sites.allegheny.edu/music/]Music”>Music | Allegheny College)
[Music</a> — Franklin & Marshall](<a href=“http://www.fandm.edu/music]Music”>Franklin & Marshall - Music)
[url=<a href=“http://music.cas2.lehigh.edu/node/24]Music”>4 | Department of Music]Music</a> Major (B.A.) - 36 credits | The Music Department<a href=“FAQ’s%20%5Burl=Ensembles | Department of Music”>/url</a></p>
<p>This was just the briefest research looking at schools I’d heard of.</p>
<p>I couldn’t resist - I just randomly looked up a few more colleges on that list that Compmom provided. Here are three more. (After this the OP can do her own research!)</p>
<p>[Muhlenberg</a> College Music Department](<a href=“http://www.muhlenberg.edu/main/academics/music/]Muhlenberg”>http://www.muhlenberg.edu/main/academics/music/)
[Music</a> | Chatham University, Pittsburgh, PA](<a href=“http://www.chatham.edu/academics/programs/undergraduate/music/]Music”>Bachelor of Music | Chatham University)
[Program</a> Music Lafayette College](<a href=“http://music.lafayette.edu/program/]Program”>Program for Majors & Minors · Music · Lafayette College)</p>
<p>Just to remind myself for later, Chatham does require an audition according to their One Note book thing, but thank you guys so much for all the help!</p>
<p>Interesting that the “one note” text avoids the word “audition” in favor of saying you must “perform for our faculty.” Perhaps the atmosphere is relaxed! I have a feeling that playing for them may not be as anxiety-inducing as some other schools’ auditions.</p>
<p>I got the impression that you are going to try to audition at some places. I think your strategy of applying to a few audition schools and a few non-audition schools sounds wise.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
<p>Most of the schools that require auditions are closer to home, so I’m mostly using these as somewhat “reach” schools in case I get screwed over. And I have very low confidence when I audition for stuff, so I figured it would be a smart idea. :)</p>
<p>Shenandoah University requires an audition for music education. We visited twice and just liked the school. There is much emphasis on the theater and dance and music is a part so maybe you would thrive in this diverse environment.</p>
<p>Also, I thought of Lebanon Valley College - we visited 7 years ago and there was a lot of music for a small school. I think you need to audition but maybe you would like a really small school environment.</p>
<p>I think you could do just fine at an audition at these two schools and they both have music education.</p>
<p>My daughter attends Kent State and is very involved with the music program. The auditions there are very low key. </p>
<p>Also, be aware that music ed in Ohio is very different than in PA. Her friends who are music ed majors in Ohio are either instrumental music ed majors or vocal music ed majors. In PA you study both instrumental and vocal music and are certified to teach both.</p>
<p>I think at most schools, you must pick an emphasis, either vocal or instrumental, but the certification is for all music. For instance, my degree is in instrumental music ed., but in every state I’ve taught in, I’ve been certified to teach any type of music, K-12.</p>
<p>Psu85 is correct. PA has very different requirements for Music teachers. There are additional requirements for you to be allowed to teach in PA that require you to be certified in both vocal and instrumental. NY has similar but not as stringent requirements as do some west coast states (Oregon maybe? I think they have a green coursework requirement) and Texas requires Texas history to teach anything, including music. If you are a PA resident and will be going to college OOS you need to make sure your school can accommodate PA requirements. They discussed this at Shenandoah Conservatory in depth when we were there. </p>
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<p>Another thing you want to consider is that most school districts would want you to have a BM or BMusEd, not a BA with an education concentration. Music ed programs have coursework in methods that you will need to teach music. In these classes you learn how to teach kids how to play all the different instruments. Even general music/elementary school music teachers need to take them.</p>
<p>Don’t be so sure you will do poorly at an audition. My daughter has auditioned at schools from state schools to conservatories and has never had a horror story. She has made each audition worse in her mind than it was in person.</p>
<p>And since you are near Pittsburgh, you should look at Duquesne. The audition was very low key too.</p>
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<p>minimusicalgirl - what exactly do you want to teach? I think that really will define the answer of the best type of program for you. For instance, if you want to be a band or choral director, you will need a BM or BME (or Bachelor of Science in Music Ed - some schools do it that way). If you get a BA and an Ed degree, you will be missing out on a lot of classes that you will need to teach band or chorus, such as conducting, all the method classes (instrument methods, vocal methods, etc.). I just can’t see you getting hired with that type of degree. And I don’t think you can get state certification in music with that type of degree. </p>
<p>If you wish to teach elementary music only, it could work in some states. For instance, in Michigan, you do not need to be certified in music to teach elementary music - yes, it’s a crying shame, but it’s true.</p>
<p>I probably would end up teaching at an elementary school, by looking at the economy and what I could do. Since I play a lot of instruments as of now, it would be more helpful if I taught at the elementary level.</p>