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<p>What upper division pre-reqs? There aren’t any.</p>
<p>Anyway…your GC is wrong if she knows that you plan on attending a 4 year univ and at the same time take the prereqs at a CC. That is bad.</p>
<p>Thanks for the school suggestions on page 2, especially Pitt (looking into that right now).</p>
<p>What are some others? looking into UMinnesota Twin Cities and UMich ( <-- heard has crappy financial aid for OOS)</p>
<p>Have you had your parents run the NPC’s on various schools’ websites? Do you know how much they’ll pay? </p>
<p>Pitt has lousy OOS aid as well. It can be hit or miss for merit scholarships. </p>
<p>yea it’s crazy, that’s mainly why I want to stay instate. But talking to other kids at school, I don’t want to limit myself out of state , there are great options OOS . Just having trouble finding them :(</p>
<p>How’s UMich on OOS aid? Are OOS publics generally poor in OOS aid because they have in state students as priorities?</p>
<p>Pitt can be great for OOS with merit aid with high stats and they are quite good with pre-med with several hospitals right there on or next to campus, plus they have sports and a lot of “rah-rah” that larger campuses are known for - that large school “college experience.”. There are oodles of research and volunteer opportunities.</p>
<p>What they aren’t good with is need-based aid, but I didn’t think that applied to the OP.</p>
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<p>Yes (especially if you’re referring to need-based aid).
If you are a resident of California (which has the best public university system in the USA), why would you even consider going to an OOS public (unless you are chasing a big merit scholarship)?</p>
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<p>Well…poor with NEED-based aid. BUT…some are generous with MERIT-based aid for students with YOUR stats.</p>
<p>What is your situation? How much will your parents pay? </p>
<p>You should apply to some big merit schools if that is what you want. Apply to some with ASSURED big merit for stats…and apply to some with competitive merit.</p>
<p>Yes, UPitt sometimes gives merit for stats, but it is VERY unpredictable. Often, their awards make no sense. We see high stats kids reporting getting nothing, and we’ll see others getting good awards… Just having high stats isn’t enough. Their down-selection process seems to take into account things that aren’t obvious. Try Pitt, but don’t count on getting anything. If you need merit aid, then also apply to some schools that will FOR SURE give you money.</p>
<p>I would highly recommend the Pitt Guaranteed Admissions Program. My D1 went thru this… we are from PA…</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.medadmissions.pitt.edu/admissions-requirements/guaranteed-admissions.php”>http://www.medadmissions.pitt.edu/admissions-requirements/guaranteed-admissions.php</a></p>
<p>Pitt Med School is currently #17 in USNWR and #22 in THE rankings</p>
<p><a href=“Subject Ranking 2014-15: Clinical, Pre-clinical & Health | Times Higher Education (THE)”>http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-rankings/2014-15/subject-ranking/subject/clinical-pre-clinical-health</a></p>
<p>Does Pitt’s guaranteed program favor instate students, like most state BS/MD programs do?</p>
<p>Wow! I just checked the Cost of Attendance at Pitt’s SOM…yikes! That’s a lot for a state school. The COA for an instate student is over $70k per year. My son’s well-ranked SOM costs about $45k per year. </p>
<p>@mom2collegekids, actually the Pitt GAP/SOM does not favor instate students, there are tons of folks like OP from CA. And yes, Pitt and other state-related schools (Penn State) in PA are expensive. No wonder D2 is attending GTECH for ChemE. I am paying full fare there. I was ready to pay full fare had she made it to MIT/Stanford too 
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“tons” of OOS students? How many total are admitted to the BS/MD program each year? </p>
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<p>That is a challenge! Not saying it isn’t possible (my son had a 4.0 BCPM), but many, many successful premeds don’t maintain a 3.75 BCPM</p>
<p>so if staying OOS publics are not good with need based aid, what are some good privates (not too small ) OOS like rice</p>
<p>So you guys all agree taking some dental pre reqs at a cc alongside a 4 year univ is a bad idea when applying to dental school</p>
<p>Some pre-health advising (and you need their letter) committees specifically forbid CC classes for pre-med requirements, AT ANY TIME, which can come back to haunt excellent candidates who did not realize their summer CC classes during high school would cause this trouble. And you can’t hide any college courses you have taken. Read the pre-health advising committee policies at a few schools you are interested in. </p>
<p>I understand some forbid CC classes, but the ones im interested in UCLA,UCSF, and USC allow atleast 70 hours</p>
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<p><a href=“http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/best-value”>http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/best-value</a></p>
<p><a href=“http://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/paying-for-college/articles/2014/09/15/colleges-and-universities-that-claim-to-meet-full-financial-need”>http://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/paying-for-college/articles/2014/09/15/colleges-and-universities-that-claim-to-meet-full-financial-need</a>
<a href=“http://www.kiplinger.com/tool/college/T014-S001-kiplinger-s-best-values-in-private-colleges/index.php”>http://www.kiplinger.com/tool/college/T014-S001-kiplinger-s-best-values-in-private-colleges/index.php</a>
<a href=“Best College Values, 2019 | Kiplinger”>http://www.kiplinger.com/tool/college/T014-S001-kiplinger-s-best-values-in-public-colleges/index.php</a></p>
<p>Use the online Net Price Calculators for any school that interests you, to estimate your own likely cost.</p>
<p>Taking dental/med school prereqs at CC is a bad idea, yes.
Check out SUNY Geneseo or UMN-Twin Cities Honors for OOS that wouldn’t be too expensive.</p>
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<p>you are misunderstanding this.</p>
<p>the calif schools recognize that some students have to do the CC to UC route. Those students go to a CC first, and then transfer (and if they want the best chances at a med school, then they should do some prereqs at the univ or take “next higher” courses at their univ, so the med school is satisfied that the student can do univ-level work.)</p>
<p>That is different than what you’re suggesting. You want to attend a 4 year univ, but take your prereqs at a CC. That is game-playing and professional schools won’t like it. They’ll want to see that you could take univ level classes.</p>
<p>What is your situation? Are you low income? Or, does your family have a good income, but can’t pay much? Do you have a non-custodial parent? How much will your family pay each year towards college?</p>
<p>If your family can’t pay much, then even so-called low-cost SUNYs and UMinn won’t be affordable. </p>
<p>The problem is not at the undergrad level. Yes, undergrad schools will accept a certain number of hours from CC, especially if the classes are not in your major.</p>
<p>When you apply to dental school, they will see where you took all your courses. And there is where the problem comes in - they will want to see that you took the most rigorous coursework in your pre-requisites. If they see you went to UCLA, but took your chem and bio and other courses at a CC, you will not be competitive against other applicants who took the graduate school pre-requisites at their 4-year university.</p>