schreyer chances and questions

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<p>hi there. i'd like to know my chances at schreyer as a high school senior.</p>

<p>GPA: 3.9 unweighted, 4.7 weighted
courseload: most rigorous possible; 10 AP's and dual enrollment classes
Rank: none ;-)</p>

<p>SAT: 2260
ACT: 35
SAT II: 800, 800, 770
AP: 5's on 8 exams, 4's on 2 others</p>

<p>recognitions: national ap scholar, national olympiad semifinalist, forensics awards, columbia science honors program, AIME qualifier, merck science day scholar, nominated by my school for both a science-related governor's school and a lesser-known humanities program and got into both, local community service recognition</p>

<p>activities: forensics, JSA, NHS, ACLU, environmental club, model congress, french club, worked as a private tutor</p>

<p>leadership:
senior year - pres of 4 clubs, vp of 1, secretary of 2 (officer in every club)
junior year - pres of 2, vp of 2, publicist of 1, founder of 1
sophomore year - pres of 1, founder of 1 (not the same one)</p>

<p>summers: state governor's school program, college course in environmental management, four acceleration courses over the past three years to skip ahead in math and science</p>

<p>i have no clue how getting into schreyer works, and psu confuses me in general. do you use the same psu app for more than one campus? and is one of those "campuses" the honors program? or is that part of university park? help!</p>

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<p>You look good for Schreyer. The vast majority of Schreyer students are at the main campus in State College and that's the location you should indicate as your first preference on the PSU App. Schreyer has a supplemental application that requires essays and recommendations. The Schreyer folks do a careful review of these apps and essays really count. They shoot for 300 entering students and they get around 1800 apps. Not sure how many they accept but I would guess that it's between 500 and 600. It's VERY competitive but not as tough as Ivy admissions. My son is a freshman now. It's a really good program. Four out of his five classes are small and he lives in a nice, centrally located dorm with other honors students. By the way, they have a good website and just started a blog. Check it out. Good luck!</p>

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<p>This year, we had to access the Schreyer App through the PSU app, it was not listed separately on the Schreyer web site. Be sure and apply to PSU right away because it has rolling admissions. Then you can link to the Schreyer app.
Essays and recs are important. It's getting harder and harder to get in but it is a great place.
My son is a sophomore and is incredibly happy.
Welcome toneranger's son! I hope he has a great year.</p>

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<p>Is it ok to apply now to regular PSU Main and THEN apply to Schreyer's later, since they don't decide until after November 30th for the Honors College? I wanna apply to regular PSU University Park now and (hopefully) get an acceptance and THEN complete my other, more difficult apps that involve essays.</p>

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<p>It's my understanding that it helps to apply prior to
Nov 30 for Schreyer. But you can still apply to PSU now and then apply to Schreyer just before the 11/30 priority deadline. No need to do them together.</p>

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<p>that is also my understanding</p>

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<p>Why would you start pointless threads like this here? What are you looking after--a confidence boost? Any retarded person would know that someone with your scores and credentials is basically in at university park for most schools. Your status are obviously high enough for ivy league admissions and if you don't get in schreyer, I doubt others will. So don't be ridiculous and come here to ask if your chances are good. If you have common sense and check the class profile for past years, you will know that your chances are very good, if not the best since you, yourself, say that you took the most rigorous curseload possible.</p>

<p>That is why averge students(with lets say 1-2 AP classes and 1730) here at CC tend to underestimate themselves and decide not to apply to schools that they otherwise may have had a chane of getting accepted.</p>

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<p>mark19 - a bit harsh on the OP there. Schreyer is tough to get into- we know some 1500 SAT kids who were rejected. Granted, the OP looks VERY strong - but it's not like he's asking if he can just get into University Park (yes - a slam dunk).</p>

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<p>yes, I was a bit unfair. I was just incensed by other members with stellar stats asking about their chances for public, average schools as if it wasn't obvious. I must say that I only realized halfway through my post that the OP wasn't talking about getting into university park in general. Nevertheless, it is obvious that he/she has excellent chances; so, I still think it is trite and pompous to ask for confirmation from us just for the heck of it.</p>

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<p>hmm yeah i wasn't asking about univ park - only the honors program. all i've heard about it is that it's one of the best honors programs in the country, so i figured it would be difficult to get in, no? and i'm not asking 'just for the heck of it'. i seriously don't know much anything about it since i didn't know about schreyer until a few weeks ago, and i have no clue what they're looking for.</p>

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<p>Never mind me zedzed07, Good luck with your applications. Honestly, I am 100% confident that you will have no problem getting into schreyer.</p>

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<p>Did you check out the Schreyers web page? They have an open house this Monday, September 25th.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.scholars.psu.edu/prospectivestudents/programs/index.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.scholars.psu.edu/prospectivestudents/programs/index.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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<p>zedzed07, which governors school did you end up going to? i have two friends who attended a science related one and two who went to a humanities one. i would be interested to see if you know them.</p>

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<p>Spinner, Toneranger, and others with Schreyer connections-</p>

<p>Do you know of any athletes in the Schreyer program? Son is interested in knowing how hard it would be to combine the two (his sport not super-demanding: it's mostly in spring semester, non-revenue)</p>

<p>How are athletes in general treated at Penn State?</p>

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<p>My son at Schreyer doesn't seem to know any athletes in the program. In the sciences, as at other colleges, labs are in the afternoon, so science and athletics can be a tough combo.
Club sports can be excellent at PSU. Field Hockey travels up and down the East Coast and even wins national titles. There are A & B teams and even a practice team, so it is very competitive. I would hope that it would be less intense than DI!
People at PSU appreciate athletics, so that must be positive for the athletes. There is plenty of opportunity for drinking. I hope the "jock culture" doesn't push kids into this. There are plenty of other things to do, so kids just have to make their choices.
I'm sure Schreyer would love to have your son stay with or contact a Schreyer athlete to get a sense of the life.</p>

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<p>midwesterner: my son knows a few guys in Schreyer who played high level varsity sports in hs but chose not to continue in college. My son is looking into joining the PSU tennis club - and it's not as easy as you might think. Last report was that 64 kids were trying out for 8 spots on the travel team. There probably are a few Schreyer varsity athletes but I bet there's not a lot of them!</p>

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<p>We attended the Schreyer’s Open House yesterday and were extremely impressed with all facets of the program from the international travel opportunities, research opportunities, dual majors, business connections, faculty, to the student themselves. All the Schreyer’s students we met were highly motivated, as you would expect at an honors college, and all of them were involved in outside activities. There are varsity athletes in Schreyer’s as well as Blue Band members. There are also club sports team members and they said that the Atherton dorm won the Intramural sports championship and Simmons’s came in 3rd (both are the Schreyer’s Dorms). So, yes, you can do things outside of studying, but just like anyplace else, you just need to budget your time.</p>

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<p>Midwesterner –
My son is a recruited OOS varsity athlete at PSU in a non-revenue sport and was accepted to the College of Engineering. He was quite interested in the Schreyer Honors College which was one of the main reasons he was attracted to PSU. His stats included an unweighted GPA of about 3.8 (high school did not weight or rank) and a SAT score in the 1400-1450 range (CR and math/only took it once with no formal preparation due to time constraints with being out of town and SAT IIs). He had taken a total of 24 honors/AP courses including 4 years of Chemistry, 3 years of Physics, 2 years of Biology, 4 years of Latin, 3 years of History, 4 years of English, 4 years of Math, numerous Humanities, Science and Art electives in addition to several other science related courses at a very competitive public magnet high school (less than 1/3 of the applicants are accepted and are generally in the top 5% of their middle schools.) The typical homework load ranged from 15 to 25 hours per week, although some weeks required more time. Additionally his sport required, at the high school level, practice of 16 to 20 hours per week about 45 weeks per year, in addition to the time spent in competition. He also placed ‘high’ in all the FTCAP categories. However, he was not accepted to Schreyer. He has said that he is not aware of anyone on his team currently in Schreyer. </p>

<p>IMO some of the athletic and/or Schreyer experience might be lost if a student-athlete is in both a varsity sport and in Schreyer. From what we were able to ascertain, coaches like their freshmen athletes to house together in the same dorm to build the bonds necessary for a successful team. This conflicts with honors students living in the honors dorms. So, a Schreyer athlete would have to choose whether to live with the team or in the Honors housing. Also, the time required for travel and practice for the athlete diminishes the time the student has for participating in Schreyer Honors College programs and activities. I am not saying that Schreyer will not accept athletes into their program. If you search the PSU website, you can find mention of Schreyer athletes. I just don’t know if they are very common. However, high achieving student-athletes can still take advantage of the honors courses offered by the university, since they have the same registration timeframe as Schreyer Honors College students.</p>

<p>Also, the Schreyer Honors College only has spaces for about 300 freshmen. each year. About 85% of the students are Pennsylvania residents. That leaves only about 45 students each year that are from OOS or international. So for OOS and international students, the Schreyer Honors College can be quite selective in choosing applicants they feel would participate most fully, bring the most to the honors college program and help them achieve their strategic goals.</p>

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<p>He was not accepted to Schreyer's with those stats? This is truly disappointing, since we are OOS, too, and S's stats are similar. Other than his varsity sport, did your S have any other ECs? Is your S in college now, because I thought acceptances into Schreyer's did not come out until February?</p>

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<p>G Dad -
Yes, S is freshman in the College of Engineering at PSU right now, but not in Schreyer (he turned in his Schreyer application before the November 30 early deadline last year). His sport was his major EC. He was nationally ranked, was a two time All-American and a state champion. In addition, he has held a summer job every summer since he was 14, including instructing young children and coaching. He holds several Red Cross certifications. He was part of the robotics project at school which did very well in competition. He was a ISTF (Internet Science and Technology Fair) finalist and did some volunteer work (about 40 hours over his four years of high school). He also completed an internship at a major corportation his senior year (too late to put on his application) as a research assistant to one of the directors. He was in the National Honor Society and National Latin Honor Society. </p>

<p>His sport took up between 16 and 20 hours per week, 45 weeks per year plus weekend competitions. Travel time was about an our per day, 6 days a week. Added to that was somewhere between 15 and 25 hours of homework. His school also had over a 7 1/2 hour school day (or 37.5 hours per week) and took about a half an hour to get to. Add all that together and it comes out to a minimum of 79.5 hours per week. Not alot of time left for sleep or much else.</p>

<p>Since his school was so very competitive for admission, he probably would be considered only average. However, he did place in the top category for GPAs. (His school only reported categories, since it did not rank).</p>