<p>I didn't do too well this year (junior year). Am I going to be an automatic reject with these junior grades?</p>
<p>TERM 1:
Honors English-93
U.S History-92
Pre Calculus-93
Honors Physics-90
Biology Projects (Research)-95
Spanish 5-85</p>
<p>Term 2:
Honors English-90
U.S History-96
Pre Calculus-95
Honors Physics-91
Biology Projects (Research)-93
Spanish 6-90</p>
<p>I go to a public elite school btw.</p>
<p>Would really good first term senior grades make u for this?</p>
<p>Those aren't bad grades..</p>
<p>But my schedule isn't rigorous and many people did better than me. Well I guess I need to do extemley well with 5 A.P's next year. Will an low income background make these grades look better?</p>
<p>No. Princeton doesn't look at your financial situation when they make admissions decisions.</p>
<p>IDK what kind of grades those are. The classes suck, and judging by those you won't get in unless your school offers like 3 APs and you're taking them all this year. Consider your class rank rather than those goofy numbers. They don't care. At some schools, a 90 is the top grade. It's all relative. Elite? what is that supposed to mean? if you have like 5+ APs offered, you're not going to get in.</p>
<p>I don't get it. Those grades are not bad grades. Are you just trying to show off? I really don't understand. </p>
<p>What does it mean by "automatic" reject? Either you get rejected or you get accepted. There is no "automatic" reject.</p>
<p>I'm kind of angry right now. I hate to see people getting all crazy and screaming out that they won't get in because they get a few percent lower than some people in their school.</p>
<p>I just don't understand. I really don't.</p>
<p>I would just like to say that my average in most of my classes were around 89.5 to 92 and I made it to Princeton. But then again, my school transcript only has letter grades without + or -.</p>
<p>OP: Why are you saying you were "screwed out of" Princeton? Unless someone other than yourself got you those grades, it seems you weren't screwed out of anything. You did it to yourself.</p>
<p>Others: While they are not bad grades, they could be looked upon with a bit of disdain if they are low for the OP's school. Obviously, context is important.</p>
<p>you won't get in unless you get 100s in all your subjects period</p>
<p>The OP's course load was easy by Princeton standards, so he/she needed to ace the courses. That didn't happen.</p>
<p>Yeah, those classes look very easy. But the jump to 5 aps next year will look good.</p>
<p>I go to a competitive school where we don't always get to take the A.P's we want to. I recently talked to a Princeton representative and they were aware of this situation and would consider first term of senior year to be the most importatnt term for people from our school.</p>
<p>Btw people with 91's have got into Princeton from our school.</p>
<p>Thus I understand the OP's situation.</p>
<p>The grades aren't the problem, it's the fact that they give offer a lot of AP classes and this person has none. That will get him just about the lowest rank for class intensity. Grades aren't the issue, it's the course intensity.</p>
<p>I can tell you right now, every single admission's book that I have read, and I've read many stresses class load intensity</p>
<p>Are uh, collegebond78 and collegehopeful78 the, uh, same person?</p>
<p>Is there any way to salvage this? My classes for next yearf are: A.P Chemistry, A.P English Language and Composition, A.P Calculus AB, A.P Microeconomics, A.P Psychology, Biology Projects (Research), Linear Algebra and Differential Equations and Macroeconomics at a local college. Would exceptional performance with those classes give me even some hope?</p>
<p>Like people have said before, there's no "automatic reject." People get in who have been deemed on CC "hopeless cases" and people don't get in who everybody thought was a sure thing. So yeah, exceptional performance with those classes would give you more hope, since I'm not really sure at what point your hope totally evaporated. I made my first C EVER (a 78, but still) the last grading period of my senior year fall semester, but my guidance counselor explained the circumstances in her letter of rec and so it didn't end up hurting me. If you really did TRY to get into AP courses your junior year and couldn't (like you mentioned earlier, or something similar), then maybe one of your teachers or your GC could mention that in his/her letter of rec. Also, you said something about low-income being a factor in your grades. From everything that I've read, having a job during the school year is looked upon really favorably, and many low-income students need to work during the school year to supplement family income or save money for school. If both your parents work a lot and you have to care for younger siblings or something, I seem to remember there being some kind of space to discuss that or to state that on the Princeton application. Otherwise, I don't know how the low-income thing would affect your grades too much. Sorry that this was so long-winded, but basically, don't give up hope, because otherwise you're just wasting your time.</p>
<p>What if your low income but you didn't work? I couldn't find a job. I have no siblings. I only live with my mom (abusive dad).</p>
<p>What suprised me is that the Princeton representative already knew that sometimes we can't get into A.P classes although we would gladly take them. He said they would focus the greatest on senior year.</p>
<p>Would a guidance counselor really mention this if I asked?</p>
<p>The guidance counselor is supposed to be "on your side." Don't ask him/her to make excuses for you, though. You could always discuss the issue with your GC, but don't ask him/her to write something specific. If you truly did want to be in AP classes, tried to sign up for them, and didn't get into them, then yes, that's a valid issue that Princeton should be aware of. I wouldn't put too much weight on the Princeton representative, however. I don't really know if Princeton adcoms are divided into regions (I seem to remember reading that they're not; they only divide by region for making visits/presentations or something), and you can't expect one rep to remember that your high school has a tough time getting everyone into the AP classes they want to take. It's worth a shot, however, to talk to your GC about it.</p>