<p>Do i have any chance for school of Engineering and Applied Sciences?</p>
<p>SAT I : 790M 640CR 700W
SAT II: 750 Chemistry
MATH IIC to be taken</p>
<p>AP: 5’s on chem, stats, calc BC, physics, bio</p>
<p>Toughest courseload possible with about 10 APs at grad.</p>
<p>top 6-7% [not sure]</p>
<p>So-So EC list, about 5 activities [1 sport] </p>
<p>Out of School List pretty good, 1 volunteer, 1 job, 2-3 more volunteer services</p>
<p>Good Essay, Good Recs</p>
<p>Chances anyone?</p>
<p>well is anyone gonna reply or what?</p>
<p>dude....you can't wait an hour and a half and get mad cuz nobody responded</p>
<p>your chances loook pretty good....UPenn SEAS is supposedly not that difficult to get into especially in comparison to the colllege and Wharton. If you apply early, you'll prolly get in. But I would beware of the CR score on the SAT even when applying to engineering school.....i have around the same score....I'm a bit worried about it</p>
<p>Yeah, but here's the thing. Im applying to Jerome Fisher, and if i get rejected from that, they will put me in the early decision round for SEAS [because i selected it instead of being put in the ED pool for Wharton]. My goal is to get to wharton. So, thats why im thinking of transferring out of SEAS first year if i get accepted.</p>
<p>Would my chance for Wharton have been equally as high as SEAS? Would it be better to use my strategy to get into wharton, or would it be better to apply to Wharton [if rejected] from Jerome Fisher program in M&t?</p>
<p>anyone got hints?</p>
<p>I think your chances for wharton (and for M&T) are relatively low because of your low CR SAT and your admittedly weak EC's. I do think you have a decent shot at SEAS though if you apply early.</p>
<p>However, I would be very cautious of trying to backdoor Wharton through SEAS. While SEAS is easier to get into than Wharton or the College, it is easily the most challenging curriculum, and internal transfers to Wharton are made strictly on the basis of GPA. A 3.6 is usually the cutoff, and the average first- year GPA in SEAS is well below that.</p>
<p>Your chances will not be equally as high. Wharton's acceptance rate is the lowest at 12% so simply by statistics you will not have as great a chance. Wharton stresses leadership (as stated numerous times on these boards). Do you have good leadership experience to set you apart? Do a search through last years acceptances and deferrals posted on CC.</p>
<p>I have taken a course that has been full of rigorous first/second year engineering college courses. Physics, chemistry, biology, calculus III, linear algebra, statistics, computer science</p>
<p>Still think I'll have trouble with the back door?</p>
<p>so, anyone wanna get back to me?</p>
<p>you took all of those courses at the college level already? if so, then why are you worried?</p>
<p>however, note that at penn, many students have similar preparation (if not better), and grades, being on curves, are not simply a question of doing well on exams, but doing well enough to beat out your peers.</p>
<p>on a more personal note, your impatience is not the most pleasant thing to see on these forums. </p>
<p>since current penn students like myself and some of the others above take time to help you out, it would be nice if you could respect our busy schedules and the fact that we even try to answer your questions in the first place.</p>
<p>since wharton internal transfer is solely gpa-based, you could actually forgo the normal freshman engineering curriculum and take college courses to boost your gpa if you so desired. however, if you were to do somewhat more poorly than the cutoff, you'd be in trouble with respect to continuing with higher-level courses (at this point, you might have to switch schools to the college).</p>
<p>a) odds are if you took all those courses already, you did so at a community college or over the summer... Penn's a bit of a differen't ball game</p>
<p>b) as was mentioned in the last post, the engineering classes, as with most big classes in the sciences at Penn, are graded on harsh curves (top 20% get A/A-) and you are competing with students who are at the very least as qualified as you. So yes, I still think you'd have trouble with the back door.</p>
<p>c) Since your curriculum has been so math and science centered anyway, and there's a lack of leadership positions in your EC's, why are you so interested in Wharton anyway?</p>
<p>sorry about the impatience. It's just that im quite worried, being an out of state-er from california, and there are so many in cali with a huge courseload.</p>
<p>If i were to apply to Wharton instead, what would be the major things which I could/should improve on my current resume?</p>
<p>ECs and leadership. I would say that it is a little too late to meaningfully develop that aspect.</p>
<p>what on earth does being out of state have to do with anything?</p>
<p>what the heck? College is harder than SEAS? Everyone knows for a fact that engineering at Penn is harder to get in than the college.</p>
<p>not harder to get into, but definitely harder to survive in</p>