<p>I would like some opinions on the quality of these programs as well as differences.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>If you're going by rankings, Columbia SEAS is a little higher in the engineering rankings by like 2 spots.</p>
<p>They're both pretty much the same in prestige.</p>
<p>Just think about which environment you'd thrive in.</p>
<p>Quality is pretty much the same.</p>
<p>Ya, the decision is difficult because they are similar.</p>
<p>I don't know how to decide.</p>
<p>New York >> Philadelphia</p>
<p>That's how you decide. Hope that helps!</p>
<p>Haha.</p>
<p>how about aside from that?</p>
<p>well the forumla is very simply</p>
<p>Columbia = Awesome</p>
<p>:-)</p>
<p>The Gateway Program at Columbia is truly a great experience. Like the core in CC (as well as a modified version for SEAS), the Gateway class is one that every engineer takes in his/her first year. It teaches you the basics of computer aided engineering design as well as team development. </p>
<p>I took this class over the summer (I know that thom could vouch as well here) and it was an amazing experience. We helped to design playground equipment for disabled children at P.S. 79. Students are involved in volunteer projects through the class that need engineering support.</p>
<p>I honestly believe that Columbia SEAS is better than Penn SEAS because of the Gateway course, NYC, and the fact that Columbia SEAS is slowly moving up the rankings to becoming a well known engineering school. Plus, at Columbia SEAS you get a modified version of the Core which will be extremely helpful after graduation.</p>
<p>Hope that helps.</p>
<p>What about engineering and pre-med?</p>
<p>Which one to choose?</p>
<p><em>vouches</em> Yes it was good =)</p>
<p>It was just such an experience to meet the children, truly understand their situation on a level I could not have previously imagined, and set out to help them by designing playground equipment. Great course.</p>
<p>Columbia offers supreme liberal arts exposure that NO OTHER ENGINEERING SCHOOL CAN MATCH. With the freshman lab and Columbia SEAS' growing prominence, I'm sure that it is a good choice.</p>
<p>thomaschau how did you have the Gateway course experience? I thought you were attending Columbia next year...</p>
<p>sorry but isn't columbia slightly low in the engineering programs compared to its prestiege overall?</p>
<p>I think Penn has a better bioengineering program.</p>
<p>the same can be said that things are slightly low for many non-engineering programs....harvards engineering ranking is even considered low...but it still doesnt change the fact that columbia is columbia and it is still prestigious</p>
<p>penn does have a very high ranking biomed engineering program at 9 according to <a href="http://www.infozee.com/channels/ms/usa/bioengineering-biomedical-engineering-rankings.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.infozee.com/channels/ms/usa/bioengineering-biomedical-engineering-rankings.htm</a>
columbia is 18...not that big a difference in my opinion...it may have something to do with columbia not attaining ABET accreditation yet for biomed...but they will be accredited soon obviously</p>
<p>also its a GRADUATE school ranking...undergrad probably wont make a big difference</p>
<p>yea... but if you go to penn, u can double up and take classes in wharton...</p>