Selective Service

<p>sheesh, UCLAri, the OP mentioned CO in his first post! He also mentioned going to Canada! AND he said his mom didn't want him to do the FAFSA 'cause that would get him registered, which MEANS that his mom doesn't want him to register. So the OP brought up ALL of these issues in the first post. I'm simply recommending that he get more educated before assuming that he has those options.</p>

<p>Do most people have to "get more educated" before they decide whether or not to break the law? This is not supposed to be an "or" question. Are you a healthy male over 18? If yes, then register.</p>

<p>Let's face it, it would take world war III to reinstate the draft.</p>

<p>isn't it true that if you're in a university or a prestigious university you'll have less chances of getting drafted</p>

<p>sliguy101,</p>

<p>The draft is, as much as possible, random. In past drafts they took students later, but I doubt that they ever took university prestige into account.</p>

<p>I don't believe whether you're healthy or not is considered. If you're male and 18, you're supposed to register with Selective Service. They don't ask anything about anyone's health (or lack thereof).</p>

<p>"I don't believe whether you're healthy or not is considered. If you're male and 18, you're supposed to register with Selective Service. They don't ask anything about anyone's health (or lack thereof)."</p>

<p>Not necessarily true.
Diabetics, epileptic, and many other disabled people cannot join the army, and therefore cannot be drafted.
So, unless you have a chronic illness...you've got to sign up. </p>

<p>And to circuit: Read some of Tim O'Brien. "The Things They Carried" will give you great insight into how those soldiers in Vietnam REALLY felt. Maybe that will let you see the world a bit differently than that violence is the answer for everything.</p>

<p>There is NOTHING that exempts folks from REGISTERING from selective service because of any health condition. The health becomes an issue (if ever) as follows:</p>

<p>"6. Physical and Mental Disqualifying Conditions</p>

<p>A registrant who is unable to report to the Military Entrance Processing Station (MEPS) because he has a disabling physical or mental condition, or whose obviously disqualifying condition has been verified by a physician, must provide the Area Office with a physician=s statement describing the disabling condition.</p>

<p>Upon receipt of a physician=s statement verifying a registrant's physical or mental condition, the Area Office will forward the statement to the MEPS for evaluation. All determinations of acceptability for military service must be made by a MEPS. If the MEPS determines that the registrant is not qualified for military service based upon the written statement, the registrant will be reclassified into Class 4-F and notified in writing of the reclassification. Should the MEPS not be able to make a determination without the registrant appearing in person, the registrant will be rescheduled to report to a MEPS."</p>

<p><a href="http://www.pueblo.gsa.gov/cic_text/misc/selective-service/info4reg.htm#3.*%20Examination%20and%20Induction%20Processing%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.pueblo.gsa.gov/cic_text/misc/selective-service/info4reg.htm#3.*%20Examination%20and%20Induction%20Processing&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>The individual was still obligated to REGISTER with Selective Service.</p>

<p>Also, I believe you need to register in order to get/renew your driver's license. That's when my son was registered at the Department of Motor Vehicles in applying for his license.</p>

<p>yes I read on sss.gov recently the same stuff that HiMom is posting.</p>

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And to circuit: Read some of Tim O'Brien. "The Things They Carried" will give you great insight into how those soldiers in Vietnam REALLY felt."

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<p>Isn't that the book where if you look at the fine print at near the beginning, you'll find that the whole thing is completely made up?</p>

<p>fill it out, you can technically go to jail if you dont. the chance of there being a draft is EXTREMELY small, and if there was you could worry about it then. as of now just sign up</p>

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isn't it true that if you're in a university or a prestigious university you'll have less chances of getting drafted

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<p>No. In the Vietnam era there were such loopholes, but not anymore. Being in school or fleeing to Canada are no longer options to avoid the draft.</p>

<p>Just for the record, I am NOT advocating that anyone break the law. As I already said, the OP was the one who brought up the issue of NOT registering (or, rather, his mom was the one who apparently didn't want him to register) so it sounded like that option was ALREADY being considered. I was just recommending that he really research the issue before doing something like that.</p>

<p>I think some male between the age of 18-26 should try to start a court case and refuse to sign the Selective Service because their equal rights are being volated. Why should males have to be drafted, but not females?</p>

<p>^Good point.</p>

<p>"Isn't that the book where if you look at the fine print at near the beginning, you'll find that the whole thing is completely made up?"</p>

<p>The book has fictional characters, but they are based on real ones. Tim O'Brien created a character named Tim O'Brien, which acted as an autobiographer in a sense. But, in general, the book acts as an idea of how most of the soldiers felt, represented within a single group.</p>

<p>And yes, you do HAVE to register, but with a disability, you can be exempt from actually serving.</p>

<p>Any brave male between the ages of 18-26 want to go to the ACLU and file the case?</p>

<p>Anyone who even mentions the word draft will be stoned to death and hanged in effigy on the spot. All hell will break loose. Nobody's even going to dare. And if they do, I'm REALLY going to Canada. You're not subject to the draft if you're not a citizen or permanent resident. I'm neither and they still sent me the form. Classic example of the complete lack of communication among the bureaucracies.</p>

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Anyone who even mentions the word draft will be stoned to death and hanged in effigy on the spot.

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<p>Look at how much this country changed after 911. Totally overnight, suddenly people were willing to tolerate invasions of privacy they were not willing to tolerate before. The Patriot Act, abolition of Habeas Corpus... you think there won't be a draft right now, but that could change if our warmonger 'president' starts more wars... Let's hope the new Democrat Congress & House are able to stop him.</p>

<p>Well the way recruiting is going now, there will be a draft in the very near future even if there is the Dems in the seat</p>

<p>What do you mean about 'the way the recruiting is going'?</p>

<p>yeah really they met their requirements last month...oh wait tahts after they terribly lowered the standards. but anyway, a draft would cause too much turmoil the governemnt wouldnt risk that unless the situation was dire (we were invaded or something)</p>

<p>and i would like to know as well why women have equal right in everything EXCEPT for the right to serve in our military when needed :) its not their fault its the militaries. i wonder what would happen if they tried to change that</p>