Severely Disadvantaged -- Chances?

<p>About me:
-I've moved around eight times during my lifetime
-I've attended around 11-13 schools during my lifetime, including around 3-5 high schools (This means that I have to start friendship-building again and again - it's much harder to be elected president, etc.)
-My family is qualified for the state's Reduced Price Lunch Program, although my parents haven't signed up for it
-I don't have a social security number. I can't get any jobs or a driver's license, so it's much harder to finance what I want and to obtain transportation to places that I want to go to
-I've struggled with public school administration for a while now, and this has led to my part-time homeschooling situation. I had to consult with many people for a looong time with a myriad of e-mails to straighten everything out (My parents aren't as proficient in English as I would like, so I had to do almost everything by myself =/)
-I had to start my junior year with a medley of mostly freshman and sophomore classes due to the conflict with the school administration about my previous homeschooling, but I managed to turn it around in the end
-As I said before, I'm currently part-time homeschooled</p>

<p>Colleges (I'm open to suggestions, especially for colleges with which I could pursue a political career):
Caltech
Harvard
MIT
Princeton
Stanford
UIUC
UPenn
Yale</p>

<p>GPA: None (Homeschooled), but it would probably be around a 4.56 weighted and 3.81 unweighted if I took into account my public school classes
Rank: None (Homeschooled) (or if you want to look at it in another perspective, 1/1 :D)
ACT: Haven't taken
SATI: 2120 (680R, 760M, 680W) (only taken once, unfortunately wasn't able to study for it beforehand)
SATII: Biology (800), Math IC (800), Korean with Listening (560) (I took it for fun, to see how I would do :P)
AP: Biology (5), European History (3)</p>

<p>Outstanding ECs and awards:
-Completed Fermilab's Saturday Morning Physics program
-Had sculpture displayed at local art festival
-Passed Japanese Language Proficiency Test Level 4
-Started map collection of over 100 maps
-Founded local go club - go is an ancient East Asian board game
-At least somewhat proficient in Mandarin Chinese, French, Japanese, Korean
-Elected by first period class as Student Congress representative
-President of sophomore class portion of math team
-Was part of school's fencing team
-Won Honorable Mention with my partner at a Model UN conference; my committee had around 30-40 delegations in it
-Convinced administration to let me take AP Biology my sophomore year; I was one of two sophomores who were allowed to do this
-Won some biology award, I forgot what it was called
-Was First Class leader
-Passed Illinois Consumer Education Proficiency Test
-Participated in tons and tons of school ECs, probably around 10 per year or so</p>

<p>What I probably need to improve on:
-More leadership, although it's been tough for me due to my situation
-Much more community service (only around 10 hours so far... any suggestions?)</p>

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<p>Because I'm probably a lot more disadvantaged than most people in the United States who are as ambitious as I am, I really have no clue as to what I can expect. Do colleges look at personal situations and their effects in addition to as academics? Is it okay for me to be aiming so high, and if so, are my chances at least reasonable? I know that my interests are really diversified, but I'm not sure if this is a good thing or a bad thing. Also, if given the chance to graduate this year and attend UIUC next year, should I take up the offer? I am currently a junior. Thanks for your responses.</p>

<p>The lack of a social security # is going to be a big problem. I do not know your situation, but the estimate is that 65,000 HS students per year graduate in the USA with no SS, therefore no way to get financial aid and no way to continue. But there ARE colleges which will offer you a chance, and financial aid--I know this for a fact. You need to dig a little, and stay under the radar. I suspect that colleges don't necessarily want this to be publicly known. Some of the top NE schools have SSn optional on their applications. Try some top private, religious schools in the upper midwest. I am trying to be circumspect here so as not to "out" an institution that would prefer to stay under the radar. Also, schools in TX and CA deal with this a lot--again, try some religious schools, as some denominations are committed to providing this opportunity for you as a justice issue, and their commitment to justice. You can PM me for a bit more info-I can mostly hint to you since this information could jeopardize the opportunities of people. But you can find places. Search Google under Undocumented and college and so forth. the USA requires, by law, that we educate people without SSNs until they are 18--and then forbids them to obtain financial aid to continue trying to meet their dreams. Makes no sense.</p>

<p>It might be a good idea to call, instead of emailing--less of a record. A visit is best, since you can talk to people face to face. I dealt with advising a situation like this, and the Admissions person did not even want a record that we had talked or anything--but get farther away from DC and things are better. Where do you live currently? I can hint better if I know.</p>

<p>Thanks for your reply, radimom. I'll be looking to see what I can do about the no SSN thing. :)</p>

<p>I'm still looking for more responses - I truly believe that my situation is a unique one and have only the slightest idea of what to expect. Thanks guys.</p>

<p>How does stuff like "qualifies for free and reduced lunch but doesn't get it" and "homeschooled partially" put you at a "severe disadvantage" for college apps? </p>

<p>The only disadvantage I see at all is that of your having moved 8 times. However, what I don't understand is that you've gone to 3-5 high schools? Why can't you give an exact number rather than an estimate of the number of high schools you have attended? </p>

<p>The thing about the SSN - I'm not sure how it affects college apps, but plenty of high schoolers don't learn to drive until their senior year, and I have a lot of senior friends who still don't have jobs now. Not being able to get a job and not being able to drive doesn't severely impact college admissions.</p>

<p>Your parents aren't proficient at English? Maybe they're among hundreds of thousands of American immigrants for whom English is a second language? Join the club. </p>

<p>How have you struggled with school administration? I hope you do not mean to say that you've had disciplinary issues or suspensions on your record.</p>

<p>I think you may be able to shed some light. So far, I'm not buying it, and I don't think colleges like Harvard, Yale, and Princeton are gonna buy it either. Looking at your resume and then at your college list, I really hope you applied to other schools that you haven't mentioned. Way too many huge reaches. As your college list is right now, I wouldn't be surprised if you don't manage to get into any of your schools except UIUC (although that would be unlucky)</p>

<p>I completely agree with amb3r, I don't see how you're 'severly disadvantaged.'</p>

<p>What is stopping you from obtaining an SSN? Are you an illegal immigrant?</p>

<p>You were homeschooled at one time- are you still homeschooled? If not, how could your rank be "1/1"? Do you have any current data about your GPA from school? </p>

<p>About your 560 in Korean- are you Korean? What is the language that your family speaks?</p>

<p>Your post is very difficult to follow. As previous posters have mentioned, you aren't giving enough information. With more clarification, everyone will be able to help you better! Thanks!</p>

<p>Please let me start off by acknowledging that this post was not in any way written with a malicious intent. I thank you for your criticism - it has helped me to further think about my situation and some better ways to explain it.</p>

<p>You wrote:
"How does stuff like "qualifies for free and reduced lunch but doesn't get it" and "homeschooled partially" put you at a "severe disadvantage" for college apps?"</p>

<p>Actually, I believe that it is the whole of these factors that puts me at a severe disadvantage in regards to the ability to study and participate in activities. In other words, more affluent students would be able to have access to many more options than I currently have.</p>

<p>You wrote:
"The only disadvantage I see at all is that of your having moved 8 times. However, what I don't understand is that you've gone to 3-5 high schools? Why can't you give an exact number rather than an estimate of the number of high schools you have attended?"</p>

<p>To explain the ambiguousness of my high school enrollments, I was enrolled to attend a high school and had a schedule ready to go, but my family moved just a few weeks before the school term started to another high school district. I have had two discontinuous terms of homeschool - one during the latter part of my sophomore year and one during the latter part of my junior year, and I am not sure if I can count that as one high school or two high schools.</p>

<p>Amb3r, I believe that I have been somewhat unclear about what I meant by "severely disadvantaged" - I will try to make my intentions clearer. I do not mean severely disadvantaged in terms of chances of getting into the colleges that I would like to enroll at, but "severely disadvantaged" as in being severely restricted in doing the things that I want to do. I have very limited resources in regards to money and transportation - I cannot buy what I want to buy (such as online high school courses, lessons for an instrument, expensive Model United Nations conferences, legal help, etc.) and cannot be transported to where I want to be transported (a music teacher's workplace, a college information seminar, a friend's house to study, the local library for volunteer work, etc.). I would also like to emphasize the first point I made about many different factors contributing to my severe crippling as a whole.</p>

<p>You wrote:
"The thing about the SSN - I'm not sure how it affects college apps, but plenty of high schoolers don't learn to drive until their senior year, and I have a lot of senior friends who still don't have jobs now. Not being able to get a job and not being able to drive doesn't severely impact college admissions."</p>

<p>Actually, my father recently admitted that I did indeed have a social security number after I nagged at him for a while about it and accidentally discovered the fact he was trying to hide when I stumbled upon his tax forms. It seems as though I still cannot obtain a driver's license due to my parent's unwillingness for me to obtain one and/or my ineligibility to obtain one. My father told me that my social security number could not be used to obtain a driver's license or to authorize me for work, but I am not sure about the truth in his statement due to the previous lie he had been upholding for possibly years.</p>

<p>Because my family is actually much below the poverty line (which is something that I have not mentioned before), it would more than double our family's yearly income if I were able to obtain a job. This would make a huge difference in the options that I would be presented with - this is the same with the ability to drive. The inability to drive and to obtain a job might not affect more affluent students, but it would certainly affect my situation to a high degree. As an example, if I were able to obtain a job, I would have decided to homeschool my junior year on a full-time basis, which would greatly speed up the rate of my education, instead of the cheaper alternative of part-time homeschooling, which I fought hard with the public school administration to achieve the right to do.</p>

<p>You wrote:
"Your parents aren't proficient at English? Maybe they're among hundreds of thousands of American immigrants for whom English is a second language? Join the club."</p>

<p>Sure, my parents aren't proficient in English, and I'm sure that there are many students out there who regret their parents' lack of proficiency in English as well. To nitpick at your choice of words, of course there are millions of people in the United States for whom English was their second language. However, my mother is not proficient at English at all, and I wouldn't call English her "second language." My father, who is somewhat proficient in English, is still not proficient enough to clearly get his points across when I have some troubles with the school administration, and he does not like to take initiative. It seems as though I always have to nag at him about important issues (such as the Free/Reduced Price Lunch Program and AP Exam Fee Waivers) to get him to start filling the applications out, and even then, he sometimes leaves areas blank, which I have to point out after he's "done" with the forms. As I mentioned before, when I want to argue a point with the school administration about the legality of some of the school's decisions, my family is not able to help, and I must seek legal information and argue my points by myself. This arduous effort takes precious hours of potential study-/homework-time out of my life. I doubt that other students with parents that lack proficiency in English do not have as many troubles as I do in this form or in any other form. In addition, I would not be in my current stressful situation if my parents were wealthy and fluent in English.</p>

<p>You wrote:
"How have you struggled with school administration? I hope you do not mean to say that you've had disciplinary issues or suspensions on your record."</p>

<p>Actually, the struggles that I talk about have nothing to do with disciplinary issues. I also apologize in advance for the long narrative that I am about to give, parts of which may or may not be relevant to your inquiry. During my sophomore year, I did not see why the school administration would not let me take AP Chemistry even with a proficient understanding of the prerequisite course, chemistry. They did not offer any proficiency tests and shut me down with a simple "The course is only for juniors and seniors," without a logical explanation why. I had started this debate from the beginning of the school year and the struggle lasted until late November, which was the time when I realized that it was far too late to switch over. I consequentially transferred out of that school and into homeschool. During my homeschool year, I studied mostly on my own through textbooks/online readings and also with my father's help, to some extent. When my family moved at the beginning of the next school year, I decided to give the new public school a chance and decided to enroll there. However, without any formal credits obtained from accredited institutions, this new school did not accept my homeschooling credits immediately. I was offered the chance to take an exam on AP Biology and AP European History, which I had at least some proof of through my AP exam scores. I was also told that I could obtain some credit for my Japanese I course that I took in homeschool upon the release of the results from a test that I would take in the December of 2007 called the Japanese Language Proficiency Test, which I eventually passed. I have not asked for credit for this class yet, because the administration also told me that any transferred homeschool credits would be on a pass/fail basis, not on a grade basis. The administration offered me a mathematics placement test which I was supposedly not successful on (the math director refused to tell me my score), but I attributed this to a number of flaws in the test and the testing environment. After bringing up the issue with the school board supplemented with photos of the testing environment, they gave me a very vague reply. I was only allowed to take the placement test for math and not science, which I desired to take as well. With logic that I could not understand, the school told me that my science placement depended on my math placement, and because I did not pass the math placement exam, I could not even try to place out of my science class. However, I won on one point when my AP European History exam score showed proof that I had studied the subject - I was subsequently placed into AP United States History. Not satisfied in being placed in freshman/sophomore math and science classes during my junior year, I asked the administration if I could part-time homeschool, to which they replied with a solid no. However, by describing the uniqueness of my situation and bringing up state laws that supported my case, they ended up changing their mind, but urged me to stay for at least the rest of the semester. When I finally transferred into my part-time homeschool, the administration took away my lunch period and replaced it with a study hall. I am not sure if this is legal, but I have not checked into it because it is no great concern of mine as of yet. I am currently homeschooling a few courses, including my math and science classes, while I am at school from period 3 to period 8. Another reason I decided to part-time homeschool was that I would be eligible for the public school's extracurricular activities, which I find fascinating and very rewarding. Once again, I apologize for the extreme length and possible irrelevance in parts of my narrative, but I hope you have a better understanding now of what I mean when I talk about the struggles with my school administration. Feel free to ask me more questions about my school situation, but in doing so, please realize that it brings up bad memories when I have to talk about this topic.</p>

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<p>Amb3r, I appreciate the constructive criticism that you have provided, as it has helped me to clarify what I have written in the first post. Please do not take offense in anything I have said - I certainly have no malicious intent in my writings to you. I would like to thank you for replying to my thread, and I hope that my post has clarified any points that previously confused you.</p>

<p>(I was wondering - is there any way to change the first post now? I recently found out that I do in fact have a social security number and would like to change the information in the first post. Thanks for any help in advance!)</p>

<p>lorrainemichaels wrote:
"What is stopping you from obtaining an SSN? Are you an illegal immigrant?</p>

<p>You were homeschooled at one time- are you still homeschooled? If not, how could your rank be "1/1"? Do you have any current data about your GPA from school?</p>

<p>About your 560 in Korean- are you Korean? What is the language that your family speaks?</p>

<p>Your post is very difficult to follow. As previous posters have mentioned, you aren't giving enough information. With more clarification, everyone will be able to help you better! Thanks!"</p>

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<p>I will try to answer your questions as quickly as I can without leaving out critical information. Unfortunately, I have much to organize and much work to do, and the previous post has tired me out to some extent.</p>

<p>About the SSN, it turns out that my father has been hiding this fact from me for a long time now, lying about the non-existence of my SSN until I found out about it while looking over his tax forms.</p>

<p>I am currently homeschooled, but I am also currently schooled in a public school. I take a few courses there and also at home. I consider the GPA that my public school gives me to be inaccurate and useless because it does not take into account my homeschooling and has changed the GPA scale from the courses that I took in my freshman year at a different high school. The formulated GPAs that I give in my first post have been calculated by myself with a uniform scale, taking into consideration only my public school courses - this GPA is also mostly useless, but I put it up anyways just to give an idea of what my grades are like.</p>

<p>Yes, I am Korean and my family speaks Korean at home, with the exception of my brother. I took the test with the anticipation that I would be able to take it the following year as well (the listening language tests are only administered once a year, in November), to track the progress that I have made in learning my first language.</p>

<p>Thank you for your questions, I enjoyed replying to them. I have one question to ask of you as well:</p>

<p>I am afraid that my story is too long and detailed to tell to a college admissions staff proficiently - it has been hard getting the forum-goers here to understand my situation, so I am not sure that I can expect any better from the undergraduate admissions staffs of the colleges that I apply to. How would you suggest that I bring up my situation with the admissions staffs, and what could I do to improve the clarity of my life-story?</p>

<p>Thanks again - I hope that I can anticipate a response, if it is not too much for me to ask of you.</p>

<p>EDIT: Also, would you happen to know how to edit the first post? My situation has already changed and I would like to update the first post to reflect the new changes. In addition, is there any way to change the title after the thread has been made? Thank you.</p>

<p>Just as a question to everyone, I would love to hear about any ways that I could improve my chances of getting into my desired colleges.</p>

<p>I have been thinking of applying to NHS. However, because I was homeschooled last year and was not a member of NHS, I am unable to run for an executive position this year. Would it be rewarding for me to apply for NHS for next year anyway? I have read a thread on these forums how NHS has been a waste of time for the posters, but I would love some additional feedback. Thanks. (=</p>

<p>Hi Flammy,
After reading your post I wanted to say that I think that it's really cool that you work really hard and try to make the best out of your situation. That quality is definetly going to take you far no matter where you go. However, I think in the admissions process you need to be sort of careful about how you word things when describing your situation. After reading your posts, I understand what you mean (and I see how you are at a disadvantage and your reasons are good), but there is a fine line between seeming like you are making excuses and presenting facts. I'm no expert, but I think you'll be best off if you try form a relationship w/ your guidance counselor, so that they can make the excuses for you and you don't have to seem like you're whining about stuff. Again, I see how it could be frustrating and cannot relate myself, but be careful in particular when putting down the school administration. Colleges probably want people who are positive about their school, even if the school is at fault. </p>

<p>Also, I have a friend who also has some financial restraints and I think it would be important for you to consider schools where there is generous financial aid and/or MERIT aid. If you apply to slightly less competitive schools, then it might be better because you'll know you'll have somewhere to go that you can afford.</p>

<p>Hello 121889,</p>

<p>Thank you for your very thoughtful insight. I appreciate the fact that you took the time to read all of my posts; I can certainly see some of the ideas that ran through your mind while you were writing your reply.</p>

<p>I would like to clarify that I do not dislike the school administration - it is only its collective unwillingness to change or to admit wrong that upsets me. Even with this minor exception, I appreciate the services, acceptance, and kindness of the school as a whole. In many facets, the staff at my school has been very helpful and caring and has thoughtfully facilitated a myriad of my problems. I know that my language can be seemingly contradictory/confusing at times - through this thread, I've come to realize that I must work harder to change this unwanted habit.</p>

<p>Thank you once again for your very helpful reply.</p>

<p>What does "I've attended around 11-13 schools during my lifetime, including around 3-5 high schools " Around 3-5 high schools? Is it 3,4,5</p>

<p>I can identify with some of your situation- my school has very limited course selection, so I need to teach myself a lot of material. Here are some of my suggestions.</p>

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<li><p>For AP courses, it is NOT too late to self study. Identify tests you can take with minimal prep (think English Lit and English Language, etc) and IMMEDIATELY CALL NEARBY SCHOOLS which can let you take them. If you qualify for reduced lunch, you will also qualify for a fee waiver (which works for all College Board tests). </p></li>
<li><p>Retake the SAT, and study this time. If you can make an 800 on the SAT II math, you can make an 800 on the SAT I too with some study. Ditto for your reading and writing--doing English APs will help you with this.</p></li>
<li><p>Get a job. I don't know why your father was hiding your social from you, but he probably won't object to you working if you use the money to help out your family. Think about what colleges mean when they say they want "leadership." It doesn't mean being president of the basketweaving club, it means having the maturity to manage your own time, set and achieve goals, etc. without needing to lean on other people. A freshman class made of 2,000 needy club leaders is much harder for them to handle, and gets them less credit in the long run, than does a class of 2,000 high school students who at least approach being responsible adults (boring as it sounds). A job, even a minimum wage job, is as good a way to show this as being president of a club.</p></li>
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<p>I've seen students with perfect test scores and G.P.A.s on this forum. I've seen students who have won national awards. I've seen students who've traveled all over the world with non-profit organizations. I've seen students who have already worked for Fortune 500 Companies. </p>

<p>But, you're the first person that's truly impressed me. I don't care what anyone else says, I think you're absolutely amazing and you deserve to get into Ivy League. If you can show the admissions officers what you have shown in this thread, you can beat all of those applicants with the perfect test scores. </p>

<p>I also agree with philoglossia, although not in such detail. Basically, keep going! Continue to take the initiative and climb for higher ground.</p>

<p>Good luck!</p>

<p>I apologize that if I'm truly wrong (even though I'll never admit that I feel wrong), but I feel that this whole post is ludicrous and fabricated. First of all ,the only real disadvantage here is that you've moved been through 3-5 highschools. But you were homeschooled.. how does "3-5 High Schools" apply to that? And the whole lunch discount thing... I dont know where you live, but in my county, if parents choose to sign up, ANYONE can get reduced lunches(even those with 90k income). In my own personal case, I can get free lunches (cuz my parents dont make that much), but anyways, this isn't a school related disadvantage.</p>

<p>You were mostly homeschooled... and moved so much... how did you get so involved in the community / do extra curr. activities? When I read this, "Participated in tons and tons of school ECs, probably around 10 per year or so" I thought it was looked wrong... it reminded me of people who joined a club, attended one day or so and left, and then put down on their resumes that they had this club and that club. "Started map collection of over 100 maps??" Well guess what? I alot of people collect many things in life... but it doesnt pertain to them having a disadvantage or a big achievement. And I dont understand..."Convinced administration to let me take AP Biology my sophomore year; I was one of two sophomores who were allowed to do this." You prob. had to convince them cuz you didnt have enough credits or only juniors and seniors were allowed to take that class. If you convinced the admins so you can take that class... the admins are breaking school rules and hence, they can be disciplined from the school county. </p>

<p>This is an inspiring post you made, but honestly, I don't believe much if any at all. I'm sorry if I sound like a bully and all... but I hope some understand how I feel about this post</p>

<p>^ Sorry, but I'm going to argue against you.</p>

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<p>Why would she make this up? Is she doing this because she's bored one day, and decided to post a fake thread so she could laugh at the replies? (actually, that's possible isn't it. lol) Well, for now, let's assume that the OP is telling the truth. </p>

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First of all ,the only real disadvantage here is that you've moved been through 3-5 highschools.

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<p>uummm, lower class, parents can barely speak English are uninformed and don't support her actions, school administrators wouldn't let her get credits and fought to get the courses she wanted, thought she had no SSN so thought she couldn't get a job, no car, no money, etc.</p>

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And the whole lunch discount thing... I dont know where you live, but in my county, if parents choose to sign up, ANYONE can get reduced lunches(even those with 90k income).

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<p>Really? People with a 90,000 salary can get reduced lunches? Well, I don't know where the **** your county is, but that doesn't happen at my school or any school that I know. Plus, the OP already stated that her family qualified for free/reduced lunches, but her parents haven't filled out the form. </p>

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You were mostly homeschooled... and moved so much... how did you get so involved in the community / do extra curr. activities?

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<p>uuuhhhh, I don't know, maybe she took the initiative? Maybe she tries to be involved? Maybe she's better than the average student? You can go to a new high school and be involved in several activities in a matter of weeks, it's not something that's impossible to do. </p>

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I thought it was looked wrong... it reminded me of people who joined a club, attended one day or so and left, and then put down on their resumes that they had this club and that club.

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<p>You're probably right on this point. There are many things on the OP's list that really shouldn't matter. Map collection, Illinois Consumer Education Proficiency Test, etc. If these are her outstanding EC's, then what are the rest of her EC's? Maybe she never had enough time to be really involved in anything.</p>

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You prob. had to convince them cuz you didnt have enough credits or only juniors and seniors were allowed to take that class.

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<p>It's just a stupid school policy. The administrators are not going to get fired for something that mundane. It's the same with my high school; not allowed to take AP classes until junior year. However, they make exceptions for good students that challenge the system. Unfortunately, I didn't know this and conformed.</p>

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but I hope some understand how I feel about this post

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<p>Sigh...well, then, I hope you can understand how I feel about this.</p>

<p>Thank you very much for your reply, JamesLee90. I will certainly try to address the questions that you have asked me. I see that butterbattle has already answered a few of the questions for me (thanks! ^^), but I'll try to patch a few things up.</p>

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First of all ,the only real disadvantage here is that you've moved been through 3-5 highschools. But you were homeschooled.. how does "3-5 High Schools" apply to that?

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My freshman year, I was enrolled at a public high school, but then my family decided to move just a few weeks before the school term started. I then went to another public high school until around November of my sophomore year, which is when I transferred to homeschool. At the very beginning of my junior year, I moved to another public school district, which turned out to be a very distinguished one, so I decided to give public schooling another shot. After deciding that I was not totally satisfied with the way things were, I convinced the administration to let me homeschool part-time. So here is the total:</p>

<p>1 - Enrolled at a public high school to begin my freshman year
2 - Moved just a few weeks before the school term began to another public school district
3 - Transferred to homeschool in the November of my sophomore year
4 - Moved to another public school district and I decided to give public schooling another shot due to the prestige of the new public school
5 - Transferred to part-time homeschool due to dissatisfaction with courses</p>

<p>The ambiguous school terms are #1 and the combination of #3 and #5 - I am not sure whether to count each homeschooling term separately or as one high school.</p>

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And the whole lunch discount thing... I dont know where you live, but in my county, if parents choose to sign up, ANYONE can get reduced lunches(even those with 90k income). In my own personal case, I can get free lunches (cuz my parents dont make that much), but anyways, this isn't a school related disadvantage.

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<p>I would say that this is an indirect school-related disadvantage. Because my parents had refused to pay for my lunches (unfortunately, I do not have a lunch period anymore), my family was losing more of the little money we had. According to U.S. federal guidelines, a family of four can get reduced price lunches if their yearly income is less than around $38,000 and free lunches if less than around 1.5 times the national poverty line. I'll go ahead and tell you right now that my family's yearly income for 2007 was around $12,000. If we assume that lunches cost around $3/day and that there are around 180 days in a school year, my family would have to pay $1080, which is about 9% of our yearly income. That's a lot. Compound that with other important family expenses and my educational/extracurricular interests, and I have almost no money to do anything with, which was exactly the case for me. I hope this makes a little more sense now.</p>

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You were mostly homeschooled... and moved so much... how did you get so involved in the community / do extra curr. activities? When I read this, "Participated in tons and tons of school ECs, probably around 10 per year or so" I thought it was looked wrong... it reminded me of people who joined a club, attended one day or so and left, and then put down on their resumes that they had this club and that club.

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Well, when a family has such a low income, their children aren't left with many options. Also, I was not mostly homeschooled - I've attended public school for the entirety of my high school career except for the latter half of my sophomore year and the part-time situation that I am currently in. Many of the clubs at my current school and at my previous schools meet at different times, such as in the morning, in the evening, on different days, during different semesters, and sometimes even during the school day. In addition, I have a few non-school clubs that I enjoy going to. I've been very active in those 10 or so extracurricular activities that I've been a part of during each school year - you can be sure that I attended as many meetings as possible. Extracurricular activities for me were not only a way of getting involved in the school community - they also helped me to make build strong relationships and have fun with school.</p>

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"Started map collection of over 100 maps??" Well guess what? I alot of people collect many things in life... but it doesnt pertain to them having a disadvantage or a big achievement. And I dont understand...

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Please keep in mind that because I switched high school so much, I was left at a huge disadvantage in building strong relationships and being elected to leadership positions. Actually, I added the map collection thing to the outstanding ECs section, because I believe that collecting maps is an "extracurricular (outside of school curriculum) activity." Maybe our interpretations on this are different - I am very new to these forums and to the whole college application process, so this may very well be the case. I thought that adding this would show a little bit of what I'm interested in. I would consider my map collection as a big achievement. ;)</p>

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"Convinced administration to let me take AP Biology my sophomore year; I was one of two sophomores who were allowed to do this." You prob. had to convince them cuz you didnt have enough credits or only juniors and seniors were allowed to take that class. If you convinced the admins so you can take that class... the admins are breaking school rules and hence, they can be disciplined from the school county.

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Yes, the second reason that you gave is correct. I had to convince the school to allow me to take AP Biology, because the class was normally restricted to only juniors and seniors. Of course, because the administration makes these rules and may allow for a very limited flexibility, they really cannot be punished by the "school county" or any local governmental organizations. I believe that the administration realized my potential, and for this reason, it allowed me to take the class.</p>

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This is an inspiring post you made, but honestly, I don't believe much if any at all. I'm sorry if I sound like a bully and all... but I hope some understand how I feel about this post

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I certainly can understand your feeling of doubt. Even I feel doubt sometimes as to how my situation could have turned out so horribly for me. Maybe after reading some of what I've written, you can begin to understand me a little bit more and what I've been through. Thank you for your reply - I really do appreciate how you took precious time out of your day to help me explain my life story. Please feel free to ask me any more questions.</p>