<p>I think we can all agree that SFShoya, whoever he/she may be, is a godsend. Let's post questions for him/her here and hopefully he/she will be generous enough to help out us lowly serfs.</p>
<p>In Georgetown College, can you triple major (Government + 2 languages) or major in Government and minor in 2 languages? What would you recommend? I definitely want to learn these two languages while in college.</p>
<p>Not SFSHoya but wanted to pass on this information which may be helpful…</p>
<p>“Students in Georgetown College may major, major with a minor, double major, double major with a minor, or major in one field with two minors. A minor is not required.”</p>
<p>[Majors</a>, Minors & Certificates - Georgetown College](<a href=“http://college.georgetown.edu/programs/majors/]Majors”>Majors, Minors, and Certificates | College of Arts & Sciences | Georgetown University)</p>
<p>Greak, thanks Mac. Does anyone know if it would be a reasonable goal to major and then double minor in two languages?</p>
<p>Hey guys, I’m happy to help. </p>
<p>Wiz: I don’t think its unreasonable to learn two languages while at Georgetown. It would be more feasible if you weren’t out to learn both Arabic and Chinese (not impossible, but you may not get to study anything else while you are here). I’m learning both French and Arabic and am already proficient in Spanish, and I am not extraordinary by any means. </p>
<p>You seem pretty focused on the minor/major aspect of it. I think it would be helpful no matter where you end up to take a step back from that mentality. Language is the one area where having a minor or a major is less important than actually being able to communicate. Your goal should be to do everything to improve your speaking/reading/writing and if you get a minor or major on the way great. Language instruction is excellent at Georgetown, but so are your government classes. Think carefully about how you construct your schedule and the opportunity cost of taking one class over another. What you can learn on your own and what is a unique learning experience in itself. Clearly this is advice for down the line and by no means a chance to deter you, just keep something to keep in mind.</p>
<p>Crashh11 asked this</p>
<p>Just to be clear, I understand you can’t double major across schools, but can you major and minor across schools? Or even within the same school?</p>
<p>This is actually trickier than it may seem. </p>
<p>SFS students can only receive a certificate: </p>
<ul>
<li>African Studies</li>
<li>Arab Studies</li>
<li>Asian Studies</li>
<li>Australian & New Zealand Studies</li>
<li>Classical Studies </li>
<li>European Studies</li>
<li>International Business Diplomacy</li>
<li>International Development</li>
<li>Islam & Muslim-Christian Understanding</li>
<li>Jewish Civilization</li>
<li>Justice & Peace Studies</li>
<li>Latin American Studies</li>
<li>Medieval Studies</li>
<li>Religion, Ethics & World Affairs</li>
<li>Russian & East European Studies</li>
<li>Social & Political Thought</li>
<li>Women’s and Gender Studies </li>
</ul>
<p>College students can minor in a long list of things, which includes a lot of cross school programs. For example, business (MSB), science, technology and international affairs (SFS), social and political thought (SFS), ect. They also can earn regional certificates like SFS students. </p>
<p>[Majors</a>, Minors & Certificates - Georgetown College](<a href=“http://college.georgetown.edu/programs/majors/]Majors”>Majors, Minors, and Certificates | College of Arts & Sciences | Georgetown University)</p>
<p>MSB students can minor in any of the listed college programs. Most students in the MSB double major, as the majors have the most crossover. It is not uncommon for students to double major and minor. As such MSB students, can’t minor in their own program, because with their core and the overlap between the majors the difference is marginal. </p>
<p>NHS students have their own minors. </p>
<p>Also, SFShoya, is there any information you have elaborating on the MSB program? (Or maybe someone else you know, is there a MSBhoya?) </p>
<p>I’d be happy to ask around for more info on a specific questions. I don’t have much first hand experience outside of econ. They do have a beautiful building.</p>
<p>SFSHoya: Thank you. I like to plan things out ahead…lol…I only care about being able to “major” or “minor” in a language so that I can get instruction from Georgetown classrooms. I am going to learn these languages while in college no matter what, but I know that having that classroom element, which would also provide accountability, would help me to learn that much faster considering that classroom work always takes precedence over work done outside the classroom.</p>
<p>SFSHoya-I know this has been discussed many times earlier,but are there any recent stats that show what the chances of success have been for internal transfer INTO SFS from MSB/COL,in the last few years(saw some stats for transfer into MSB/COL/NHS,but none for SFS).I’ve heard all these being said-possible,difficult,doable etc etc-but what’s the general feeling among students/staff at SFS?Do you’ll see it happen only in rare instances,or does it happen quite often.
Thanks.</p>
<p>Here is a great article about the process, though the SFS doesn’t cite internal transfer statistics. </p>
<p>[Rethinking</a> Best Fit, GU School - News - The Hoya](<a href=“http://www.thehoya.com/news/rethinking-best-fit-gu-school-1.2137255]Rethinking”>http://www.thehoya.com/news/rethinking-best-fit-gu-school-1.2137255)</p>
<p>The issue is that the SFS, MSB, and the NHS have a pretty particular course of study freshman year. Students transferring between may be behind. The smart thing to do is to start taking SFS core classes as soon as possible, but the even smarter thing to do is just apply to the SFS. If you are unsure, that’s a different story. In that case it is feasible, not entirely common but definitely a possibility if you are smart about your course listings (take your econ, take your regional histories early, ect). </p>
<p>I’m not sure if this is you in particular but a lot of people look at the stats and think the MSB is a “backdoor into Georgetown.” I think 1) more and more that is not the case 2) if you really want to be in the SFS, your transcript, EC’s, and general spirit will make a more cohesive and persuasive application to the SFS. The admincomm really is not fond of people trying to pass off an application. I think in general you do yourself a detriment. </p>
<p>With that said, it happens. If that is your sneaky plan, the best thing to do is call the admissions office before the semester starts and have them switch then. At that point the process is fairly full proof.</p>
<p>Hi SFShoya,</p>
<p>I read you made a post about how Geoargetown makes their academic decision based on a 10 point scale ( half academic and half personal). Do you know whether other colleges do something like this?</p>
<p>Thanks free2rhyme</p>
<p>Hey, </p>
<p>So sorry that wasn’t me, and I’m not sure about other schools’ policies. I totally agree though it would be interesting to learn more about the closed door policies of different universities. Is there any reason in particular you are interested in the 10 point scale?</p>
<p>Oh sorry, I am new to this Georgetown forum and got mixed up with a lot of the “hoyas”. I applied ED to another school (and planning on applying to Georgetown RD) but my test scores and academic qualities I would say aren’t that best, so I was hoping that maybe other schools utilized this 10 point scale which would give me some more hope in terms of admissions for other schools.</p>
<p>Good luck! Admissions to top schools is often holistic. I’m not sure how many use the scale you mentioned, but hopefully they will get to see you as a whole applicant. Good luck!</p>
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<p>Not sure where you heard this, but it is inaccurate.</p>
<p>Actually, that is exactly how the admissions committees work at Georgetown–I was on one for two years.</p>
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<p>Oh? When abouts?</p>
<p>5 years ago, now I am an AAP (Alumni Admissions Program) interviewer. Same process has been going on for decades while Charlie Deacon has run the admissions office.</p>
<p>Got ya. Check your inbox for a PM from me.</p>