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<p>The bullying stuff also came from one of the bullies.</p>
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<p><a href=“Video Rant, Then Deadly Rampage in California Town - The New York Times”>Video Rant, Then Deadly Rampage in California Town - The New York Times;
<p>With this man, his autism wasn’t his only issue. He let his hatred consume him. </p>
<p>CF - He was a very high-functioning person who received a Asperger’s diagnosis as a child. Let’s not make him more disabled than he was. He was plenty capable of conning the police into believing all was well. He functioned when he wanted to function, seemingly. And, he perceived plenty. The problem is it was all about him and nothing but the best would do. Hot blondes or everybody dies. It’s really disgusting. Start there.</p>
<p>Again, exactly, actingmt and Niquii. He seemed perfectly able to turn his odd behavior on and off as needed. And remember too, this was a kid who was exposed to a lot more than a lot of people, due to the opportunities his family situation afforded him. He traveled the world. He was around famous people. He certainly picked up cues on how to “pass” as normal from his parents and others. He was nothing like Adam Lanza, for instance, who was almost completely withdrawn from society and seemed utterly incapable of behaving in a normal fashion ever.</p>
<p>“What does his comm college record have anything to do with anything?”</p>
<p>Nothing. I just brought it up because the policy of allowing anyone to take as many classes as they want at taxpayer expense without a serious plan to graduate from the school within a reasonable timeframe seems to me to be a waste of taxpayer dollars in this state. </p>
<p>Wanting to be recognized as a god is not a symptom of Asperger’s. If he did have Aspergers, something else was also going on. </p>
<p>I’m starting with having Aspergers myself, having a son with Aspergers, having a brother with Aspergers, and having two close friends with autistic sons. I’m starting with knowing exactly what an Aspie childhood is like, in all its gory and painful details. I’m starting with knowing just how disabled a person with high-functioning autism is. Being able to have a conversation with police doesn’t equate to being able to strike up an acquaintance with a girl. They are two different skills. With police, all you have to do is answer the questions; that’s easy. Striking up an acquaintance with a person of the opposite sex, you have to… well, I have Aspergers, so I don’t really know, but I know that for me striking up a conversation with somebody I don’t know is still difficult and fraught with peril even at my advanced age.</p>
<p>I’m saying he didn’t start out with “hot blondes or everybody dies.” He ended there, but he started with being bullied and rejected. He started with being treated like an oddball (because he was one), with hot blondes mocking him and taping his head to the desk.</p>
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<p>You don’t have the slightest bit of evidence of that. Not the tiniest bit. </p>
<p>ETA: Does even one of his therapists say that he could turn off his odd behavior? Where is one reported example of him turning off his odd behavior? Talking to the police doesn’t count; all he’d have to do is answer their questions, which is easy enough.</p>
<p>Where is the one friend who says, “He was normal with me. I never suspected he’d do this”? Where, even, is the person who says, as people say of people with narcissist personality disorder, “I saw him change personality. One minute he was normal, the next…”? </p>
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<p>Who said his perceptions were normal? Oh, right. NO ONE.</p>
<p>My comment was in regard to other people’s comment about the perception or “facts” about whether or not people were having more pre-marital sex than before. You can tell the context by noticing the question I quoted about whether or not statistics were kept. </p>
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<p>IME, few people do this because with such folks it often results temper tantrum rants directed against the person doing so and in most cases, the advice is ignored. </p>
<p>If fifty-somethings still have an issue with ranting about one’s “unfairness in life” stories as one older HS classmate recounted on her one and only date with such an individual, it’s an indication that advice from others isn’t very helpful unless the individual him/herself internalizes the desire for such change. </p>
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<p>This is NOT true at all. He was at an all-boys Catholic school when this happened. Please do not blame the victims here. As far as we know, no hot blondes (or other females) did anything bad to him ever, other than be uninterested in him. </p>
<p>I read something in the NYT article comments section that I hadn’t thought of before. This really was a hate crime, against women. Everyone else, including the roommates, was collateral damage. </p>
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<p>I dont think he wanted a girlfriend. He wanted a live attractive blow-up doll.</p>
<p>So I noticed the twitter feed where many women are speaking out about how they don’t feel safe around men, particularly late at night on deserted streets or in situations where these men are trying to get them to engage in sex. I can empathize with any woman who has had to endure the fear of being attacked or just hassled, but I think it is a stretch to say that the objectification of women in society is somehow responsible for this lunatic’s rampage in Isla Vista. This is clearly a mental health issue, not a cultural one.</p>
<p>He grew up in a virtual reality. And, he believed it was supposed to be real, somehow. And, he felt cheated.</p>
<p>I agree it was a hate crime against women. My interest is how he got to the position of committing a heinous crime, and how we can prevent others from getting to the same position. How did he get this deluded sense of entitlement? </p>
<p>See above. Everyone around him seemed to have a charmed life. His mom is a Real Housewives of France reality star and his dad is a successful movie director. Nothing was real. And, who knows what happened to him during years of therapy. It failed.</p>
<p>I’m wondering what the deal was with his housing arrangements. It seems unfair and irresponsible on the part of the parents to have him just slotted in to student housing with unsuspecting roommates. I don’t know where to draw the line in every case, but it seems to me like sacrificing their rights in favor of his. Parents in my state have been lobbying the state legislature and fighting the ACLU to gain some measures to make involuntary detention. Right now the system requires that the horses already be out of the barn before you can prove that the door needed to be closed. </p>
<p><a href=“Elliot Rodger the 'virgin killer' of California had a privileged life | Daily Mail Online”>Elliot Rodger the 'virgin killer' of California had a privileged life | Daily Mail Online;
<p>Really, he had a lot more going for him than most people. If no-one liked him, I’m going to go out on a limb and guess that he was unlikable.</p>
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<p>Considering the evidence he left behind in his video rants, “manifesto”, and facebook page, there’s a larger cultural component which plays heavily into his excessive sense of entitlement.</p>
<p>The cultural component comes from a weird expectation of what college life was supposed to be life derived much more from movies/TV pop culture than reality, his feeling he deserves to have women…especially “hot blonde” sorority women fawning over and giving him sexual attention, his anger at having been denied this…especially considering his wealth/BMW/Hollywood Connections, his expressed desire to “make women fear him” and to make them pay for his being “wronged” over not being noticed as the “perfect gentleman”. </p>
<p>It’s obvious he hates the women who supposedly wronged him along with feeling his wealth and status as “perfect gentleman” entitles him to all the hot blonde women he desires. </p>
<p>This is apparent from the showing off of his wealth and status in this account:</p>
<p><a href=“Elliot Rodger the 'virgin killer' of California had a privileged life | Daily Mail Online”>Elliot Rodger the 'virgin killer' of California had a privileged life | Daily Mail Online;
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