<p>What about the LGBT community? Have we convinced ourselves that LGBT students don’t exist in such a way that we assume they will be comfortable with ‘single-sex’ dorms? Please. Have areas on campus for those who want to live with all guys, and those who want to live with all girls. For 50k a year, a CU student should be able to live in a co-ed environment if they so choose and vice versa.</p>
<p>no.</p>
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<p>I disagree with you, and I’m a member of the LGBT community who doesn’t support same-sex only dorms. HOWEVER, you damn well have the choice to NOT go to CU. It is not a public university and it isn’t required that you go there simply because it is the most cost effective option (like a state university would be).</p>
<p>If you CHOOSE to attend a private, religious university then you follow their rules. Simple as that.</p>
<p>i agree with ramnigypsyeyes (damn that’s a name LOL). religiously affiliated universities weren’t even a consideration for me. I understand wanting to get a strong biblical rearing in college, but as an LGBT individual, who in the world would want to deal with the side effects that come with going to a religious college (in many cases)? That being said i think college is a time for self-exploration and single sex dorms simply shield freshman from something they should be exposed to. but that’s private education fer ya. =</p>
<p>D is enrolling in a VERY liberal college come fall (Hampshire) and I left her dorm decisions up to her. She most likely will get a single (her preference) and also requested the study intensive and all female dorm options. She said she just could not face the “mess in the bathroom” which is her experience of male young adults (whether erroneous or not) and there was no moral aspect to it all. She also has many more male friends (of the geek/nerd persuasion) but decided she did not need to have her best friends living nearby, in fact better for sleep/study if they did not. I was actually surprised she went the all female option, but not the quietest option as she still retires earlier than 99% of her peers. (She tried the late night living when she was in Rome for two months and hated it. ) I think it best for housing options (coed/single sex) to be available for students but understand why Catholic University is making the choices it is- whether or not based on dubious statistics. This may make students gravitate towards or away from the school which is fine in my opinion too.</p>
<p>Interesting the comments of other people’s experiences with co-ed dorms. When I went to NYU in the 80’s dorms were co-ed, but the bathrooms were in the suites, we didn’t have bathrooms in the hall, but I recall from my brother’s dorms at Columbia that when bathrooms were in the hall, they weren’t co-ed, they had seperate facilities for men and women…didn’t realize any schools had co-ed bathrooms as well (besides single unit bathrooms…). </p>
<p>No,not surprising a Catholic school would have single sex dorms, and that of course is their right. However, the arguments against co-ed dorms is bogus, frat houses are single sex and there is no one who is going to tell you that they are bastions of serious thought and restraint (from what I have heard, Sorrorities aren’t exactly saintly…more importantly, he is basically claiming that having the ‘sexes together’ is the cause of instability, and that is simply not true. While I am sure some would prefer single sex dorms, and maybe they should have that choice, there is plenty of drinking and carousing and sex in single sex dorms as there is in co-ed ones, and this idea that if you put young men and women together in the same building that all they will do is have sex and party is idiotic. I lived in the dorms for 4 years, and knew most of the people in the building, the dramas, you name it, and from what I could tell, very little hooking up happened within the dorm, and most people were not rutting with everyone else in the dorm (with other people, well, bout the same as the rest of society). </p>
<p>As a justification for same sex dorms, conflating drinking and sexual activity with it is the old argument that men cannot be around women without lust in their hearts and so forth, can’t restrain themselves, and that is pathetic (and frankly, insulting to both young men and young women). Yes, there are idiots, there are the stereotypical college types who would mess anything up, but frankly what the person is claiming in terms of same sex dorms is no different then those who argued that showing a women’s leg in a movie was going to create legions of sex crazed rapists or whatever, it is silly IMO. Like I said, I can understand that some students might prefer single sex dorms, and they should have that option open, but I also think that others should have the ability to live as they wish as well, part of the college experience is finding yourself and experiencing other people. I was fortunate to go where I did, besides being in the city in a great area, I got to meet a lot of neat people, from all over, various orientations (some of which I am still, 30 years later, still trying to figure out <em>lol</em>).</p>
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<p>Oldtimer is referring to something that used to be considered good fun back a while ago in colleges. Basically, as part of frat initiations or just a group of drunken boys out to raise hell, someone would be named ‘it’ with the task of sneaking into a girl’s dorm or sorrority house to steal certain items of female lingerie, usually panties, and bring them back as a trophy of sorts or proof they ‘did it’. Friend of mine who is probably from Oldtimer’s era told me he had to do it when pledging a frat, but made a big hit with at least one sorrority girl by actually telling her about the task and politely asking if she could help (heck, must of made one hell of an impression, last I checked they were still married, I think #50 is coming up). There were also tales told of what happened to boys who were caught, but that is another story <em>lol</em></p>
<p>I guess this comes down to the fact that this is a private catholic institution, and as mentioned before, if you choose to attend, you choose to follow the rules.
Point of perspective re: LGBT community, at my liberal school a political coalition on campus pushed (and succeeded) to make each floor’s bathroom non-gendered, so as to protect the transgendered students who may feel uncomfortable with having to choose. All dorms were co ed (I am a female and had male neighbors to my left and right), though there is one all-female and one all-male dorm, plus one all-female floor per building. I didn’t find it extremely bothersome, though i definetly know of many “hookups” and debatable acquaintance-rapes that occurred on my floor, which made people take sides. I think some would agree it is the visitation (i.e., who is allowed in whose room) rules that are most important- my cousin goes to a religious school and while some dorms are co ed, boys aren’t even allowed in girls’ rooms.</p>
<p>For those girls that claim that they are “a guy’s girl” and “can’t deal with the cattiness of an all girls floor” - realize that 1) you have a choice to make friends with guys outside of the dorm and 2) either way you will have “cattiness” in your own room, if that’s what you assume ensues when girls live together and 3) you have full control over any element of drama.</p>
<p>Edit: I must reveal my bias here - in my experience including in residence halls, the girls that constantly insisted that they were “one of the guys” and “couldn’t stand girls” were also extremely promiscuous and couldn’t be seen in the lounge without a full face of makeup - which bothers me.
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