<p>The biggie being AMCAS will NOT verify ANY foreign transcripts. Without verification a med school app (MD) will not be processed.</p>
<p>Kat</p>
<p>@romanigypsyeyes </p>
<p>If a person is legally in USA, it is considered “resident” for tax purposes. Not sure about illegals. All these applicants are admitted through the vary same path as US citizens. They are not counted as “internationals”. </p>
<p>“International applicants need to have completed all their med school pre-reqs at an accredited US or Canadian college or university.”</p>
<p>Alternatively, you are asking an agency (forgot the name) to make a notarized certification that your foreign credits are equal in weight to the US credit. It costs some money, but it is very straightforward.</p>
<p>No, californiaaa, no… Many med schools will not consider an applicant unless he/she has at least x number of credits at a US/Canadian school no matter their citizenship status. </p>
<p>“International Students” - is a designation for visa purposes. </p>
<p>Perhaps we are talking past each other. </p>
<p>I just looked up the requirements for three different med schools: UMich, Harvard, and Stanford. Every single one said you need at LEAST one year of university study in the US, Canada, or UK (Stanford) before your application will be considered- regardless of residency status. </p>
<p>It doesn’t matter if you’re a US citizen (at least in U of M’s case, that’s the only way they’ll consider your app anyway) or not. If you completed undergrad in another country, for whatever reason, you MUST have at least one year of study in the US/Canada/UK(maybe).</p>
<p>And the least ONE year is the minimum. With 45,000+ applications the med schools can be picky. Many are applying with advanced degrees earned here in the US. More competitive than the lottery schools, ie HYPSM…</p>
<p>Some schools restrict to specific state residency, and specifically exclude any international students.</p>
<p>So if an allopathic med school is the desired goal a US undergrad degree would be optimal. To answer the OP’s question.</p>
<p>Kat</p>
<p>“If a person is legally in USA, it is considered “resident” for tax purposes. Not sure about illegals. All these applicants are admitted through the vary same path as US citizens. They are not counted as “internationals”.”</p>
<p>So what? What is considered resident for tax purposes has nothing to do with what is considered domestic / international for med school purposes.
Please, californiaa – you don’t know. You’re just guessing as you go along. </p>
<p>Pizzagirl, please … </p>
<p>I applied (and was accepted, and dropped after one year, and I am happy about it) to a prestigious US law school. I was on J visa at that time. I was applying in a general pool of applications, not as an international! (don’t have experience with medical school). And paid in-state tuition, not a tuition for international students. And was eligible for in-state fellowship. </p>
<p>“at LEAST one year of university study in the US, Canada, or UK (Stanford) before your application will be considered-”
… unless you could prove that your credits are equally valid. There are special agencies that make such evaluations and issue notarized document. That was 15 years ago. May be it had changed recently. However, it was relatively easy to get “certification” at my time.</p>
<p>Another option - find a faculty, from the same university, who would write to admission officer that he personally verifies that your credits are comparable to US credits. (worked for me). </p>
<p>I think, once you are considered in-state resident for tax purposes, you are not considered “international” by schools. </p>
<p>Law school is not the same flippin’ thing as med school. </p>
<p>Furthermore, NO. Just NO. It is not about proving equivalency. They specifically state that you MUST study a year or more in the US/whatever. </p>
<p>Please, stop talking about things that you clearly know NOTHING about. It’s not helpful for the people on this board who are looking for good information. </p>
<p>However, given the amount of times that you just blatantly refuse to even consider an alternative POV, no matter how much data supports it, I’m going to assume that you’re one of a few things- none of which are worth arguing with.</p>
<p>“Transcripts
International applicants who completed courses at
an international school should follow the instructions
provided on the AMCAS site for entering coursework and
requesting transcripts. If any of the courses were taken at
a foreign institution, but credit was granted through an
accredited U.S. or Canadian school and the courses appear
on that official transcript, then the corresponding U.S.
or Canadian transcript would be required. AMCAS will
verify and include those courses in the AMCAS G.P.A. For
instance, a course may have been taken through a studyabroad
program sponsored by an American school, but
hosted in a foreign country.”</p>
<p>Yes. And there are plenty of US schools that provide service (for money) of granting and accrediting and listing foreign courses on their transcripts. </p>
<p>In fact, it is fairly simple to find such "partner’ through the foreign university, if it is one of the top universities in your country. </p>
<p>This is for students who studied abroad at a foreign institution while matriculated at a US or Canadian school. The courses would then be entered onto the “host”/US school’s OFFICIAL transcript. AMCAS does NOT verify ANY foreign transcripts. </p>
<p>Each school you attend must forward an official transcript to AMCAS, if one of those happens to be foreign it will NOT be verified.</p>
<p>Having a son just complete the entire med school process it is pretty straightforward.
<a href=“https://www.aamc.org/students/applying/amcas/faqs/147536/amcas_2010_faqs-6.7.html”>https://www.aamc.org/students/applying/amcas/faqs/147536/amcas_2010_faqs-6.7.html</a></p>
<p>Have you gone through the med school application process recently?</p>
<p>Kat</p>
<p>After all of these posts- DO NOT count on an Asian degree for getting into medical school in the US. Law school admissions are a lot easier- there is hardly any competition relatively speaking. You CANNOT compare medical school admissions to any other post bachelor’s degree programs.</p>
<p>btw- Physicians Assistant programs are also highly competitive. Supply and demand. Getting a law degree does not equate with getting a job like an MD does- again, supply and demand (tons of lawyers- an oversupply). Easier to churn out lawyers since they don’t need the limited resources for their education medicine does- labs, hospitals…</p>
<p>It would make sense to do a US undergraduate education if your purpose is to also do a US medical school and plan to live in the US forever. Added cultural knowledge, valuable in treating American patients. Going to college in the US you may decide medicine isn’t for you. You may discover another interest. Going to school in Asia with the goal of medical school in the US means you will be away from US culture, language and getting ongoing premedical student tips given at most/all US colleges.</p>
<p>Kat…- presuming congrats to your son. So different in the computer age than my snail mail, precomputer experience eons ago- also things were a lot different for women back then.</p>
<p>Pre-law, Pre-med, what’s the difference?</p>
<p>"Have you gone through the med school application process recently?</p>
<p>No, I don’t. I have experience with law school. 15 years ago. It was extremely simple. Even though all transcripts were from another country. And I was on a visa. (no citizenship, no green card). </p>
<p>“Physicians Assistant programs are also highly competitive.”</p>
<p>Physicians Assistant programs accept foreign degrees, for sure. They may ask you to supplement some classes with community college, but all pre-reqs are easily fulfilled within half a year of community college classes.</p>
<p>Thanks Wis75! He is already into the MD part of his degree, he begins the MBA portion of his MD/MBA dual program in just a few short weeks. The joint program shortens his time in both programs while mitigating the cost of both as well. The MBA portion is 4x the tuition as the MD portion, thankfully he earned a full fellowship for the MBA portion while retaining his scholie for med school. He’s happy but tired!</p>
<p>Kat</p>
<p>@katwkittens,</p>
<p>So your son got BS in engineering (?), and now he completes MD / MBA program. Is he planning JD as well? May be, Ph.D? </p>
<p>Law School and Med school admissions are completely different. Not like apples to oranges (they are both fruits after all) more like apples to a loaf of bread.</p>
<p>Moreover, the visa process has changed substantially since 9/11 for foreign students. So anyone describing how things were back in 1995 when they were in grad school needs to understand that the old rubber-stamp/automatic entry days are over.</p>