<p>So, I'm a freshman entering Emory in the fall (really in like a week), and I have a dilemma. I have 27 semester hours worth of credit on my dual credit transcript. I started out great, 4.0 summer term, 3.75 fall term, but then 3.3 spring term...after this summer I should have about a 3.55, but I was wondering if I should submit the classes that I did poorly in for transfer credit (B in both semesters of English, B in Art His. 1, and C in Art His. 2). Currently they only have the three courses I took over the summer term and received A's in on my transcript.</p>
<p>I know either way I will have to send in my dual credit transcript to AMCAS, but I was wondering if it would just be more appropriate to retake the English and Art History course?</p>
<p>If this is true, if I get a 3.1 GPA and a 30 MCAT, I’ll have a 81.5% chance of getting into medical school? Wow…I’ve been thinking I needed a 3.7 and a 35.</p>
<p>my guess would be not to report them unless you want to graduate early or something. Did you take those classes at Emory while still in high school? Otherwise I would imagine that there are other english and art history courses that you could take such that you’re not literally retaking the same ones.</p>
<p>assuming you are african american (since that’s the table you’re quoting) then yes, 81.5% of AAs with those numbers got in to at least one american medical school the last few years, however, there is much more than those 2 numbers to your app so it’s not as simple as you’re making it sound, and it also will depend on what schools you eventually applied to.</p>
<p>You have to report ALL college level classes taken anywhere including dual credit courses. Don’t even think about not reporting them unless you want to play Russian roulette with your admissions.</p>
<p>I hated English, but only because my professor was a b*tch and didn’t like me. I HATED Art history, but I’m sure I could find other courses to fulfill that requirement.</p>
<p>Don’t retake them. All grades are going to be seen and counted and you won’t “replace” the “Bs” or “C” you’ll merely add more courses to the mix. Focus on other pre med requirements and core courses and get the best grades possible. One or two non science Bs are not going to hurt you in the long run.</p>
<p>I am not talking about whether to report to amcas, I am talking about whether to report to Emory. I took a summer class during my undergrad years that I never reported to Brown because it was unnecessary and didn’t justify doing the paperwork/paying for a transcript release. Unless I am really mistaken, I see no reason why the op has an obligation to Emory.</p>
<p>And one last question? I’m planning on majoring in international business and was wondering…should I take my AP chemistry credit and place out of chemistry 141 or take the course? I know if I don’t later on I’ll need to take analytical chemistry.</p>
<p>eadad’s alluding to academic dishonesty, which you would be committing by not reporting classes you’ve taken at other schools to the schools you’re currently attending (or applying to). You’re lying by omission–you’re in effect saying “I haven’t taken any other classes at any other schools besides the ones I’ve shown you with these transfer transcripts” when in reality, that’s wrong–he took classes over the summer, and you took classes at Brown. This would likely be a violation of Emory’s academic dishonesty policy or honor code, depending on their governance. I don’t know how Emory handles such violations, but at my school they’re added to your permanent record and included on that list of things you have to check the box about sanctions for.</p>
<p>The problem with this isn’t the meager effect it will have on your GPA. It’s a much bigger issue of honesty, ethics, and professionalism–all of which are of paramount importance to medical schools when determining who to admit (because admitted students will likely become doctors, who are held to high ethical standards throughout their entire career).</p>
<p>I imagine lying about courses taken is a fast track to have your offer of admission rescinded.</p>
<p>OP: report all classes from all schools you’ve ever attended. You’ll have plenty of time to offset one part-time semester of a 3.3, and you won’t have to deal with any of the consequences of lying to Emory (or AMCAS).</p>
<p>Normally I agree with your posts kristin but this one is rather strong. There is no lie here, assuming the OP listed the spring DE courses on the Common App. To complete the admissions process, the OP does need to send a final HS transcript for senior courses, which will include the DE courses, and will validate the courses listed on the Common App. </p>
<p>Most top colleges will not provide credit for standard dual enrollment courses (taken on the HS campus); in such cases, and Emory is one, there is no reason to send a transcript bcos they won’t do anything with it. The fact that the OP also took an extra course or two over the summer – instead of working retail or surfing at the beach – is of no interest to Emory, unless the OP wants course credit.</p>
<p>Emory clearly states on their website, ‘if you would like to have college credit, please submit the following form for review…’. It does not say, that you MUST submit a form for us to evaluate.</p>
<p>^^I agree. I took EMT training this summer, and yes I still have time to work and go to the beach. lol. I’m actually a pool lifeguard and a beach lifeguard trainee (which is why I took the EMT course).</p>
<p>Also, I didn’t submit my transcript to Emory because originally I wanted to retake the classes, not because of possible academic dishonesty. The classes I took are dual enrollement, which means the grades are posted BOTH on my high school AND college transcript. So it isn’t as if I was hiding my grades. I actually called them today; they said it didn’t matter as long as it showed on my high school transcript.</p>
<p>Gotcha. I incorrectly interpreted your original post as “I didn’t do as well in this course over the summer as I expected. To avoid having it negatively impact my GPA, can I just not mention it to Emory?” In that case, I would say you should still report it based on the whole academic dishonesty spiel. Plus, had you never reported it to Emory, you might’ve gotten in hot water with AMCAS come application time, since there’d probably be some discrepancy between your Emory transcript (which would presumably list all dual enrollment courses, regardless of whether credit was granted) and the transcripts sent to AMCAS for verification. Can’t imagine that would be good.</p>
<p>The underlying point to my post was intended to be simple: don’t lie to get ahead, you’ll almost surely get caught and there will likely be unfortunate consequences.</p>
<p>Glad you have it all figured out! And apologies if my post came off stronger than intended :)</p>
<p>thank you bluebayou. I was about to write that I think someone is misinterpreting the situation, and I guess it was both kristin and I. I was under the impression these were courses taken on a wholly elective basis (like the summer course I took at Columbia that I chose not to report to Brown even though it was an A). In my situation, which I assumed was similar to the OPs, it is not academic dishonesty if he wanted to claim credit for only the good grades or simply didn’t want to claim credit at all since there was no explicit request by the university to obtain such grades.</p>
<p>Given what has been said since, I 100% agree with you that if your coursework is requested you cannot pick and choose, however, if you are given the option to present only the information you would like to, it is not dishonest to withhold things.</p>
<p>This too, makes no sense to me. The OP can just send a transcript from the DE college as well as an Emory transcript. Many HS kids take summer courses at local colleges, without high school credit, and/or have Dual Enrollment courses. AMCAS is used to seeing multiple transcripts from students.</p>
I know if I don’t later on I’ll need to take analytical chemistry.</p>