Should I retake... on Dec?

<p>Hi, im an international applicant (who just applied Princeton ED, lol)
anyway, im more or less done with the SATs but i feel like i have to
retake my SAT... on Dec..
so here's my test scores..</p>

<p>sat1 740,800,740 2280
sat2 math2c 800 chinese w/ listening 800 (yea im chinese)
chem, math1c <-- took this oct,,, expecting around 750 for chem,
770+ for 1c,,
act 35 (w/o writing tho.. in my area, w/ writing not offered)</p>

<p>anyway,, i think i can just take 1 more sat2 but then i dont rly hav
any subject test to take,,,
after all i think my sat1 is slightly not 'sufficient' for HYPSM..
should i retake? any comment'll be appreciated</p>

<p>Don't bother retaking. For HYPSM, scores consistently over 710 get you serious consideration. Contrary to the way it seems here on CC, the decisions are NOT based on SAT scores, but on GPA and ECs (once you get beyond the SAT hurdles, which you have.) Why else would they reject half of those who receive perfect scores and take those with slightly lower scores? </p>

<p>The biggest factor in getting in to the Ivies (can't speak to Stanford and MIT) is leadership. Once you're in the right range with GPA and SATs, then they look at your ECs. Anything that shows initiative, leadership, and passion helps your application.</p>

<p>Awesome comment. I'd would say that retaking the SAT might even hurt you. Since your scores are perfectly fine, it would seem that your in a way obsessive, so NO do not retake. It'll just be up to the rest of your application, becos they won't reject you due to your SATs.</p>

<p>Very true pearfire, very true. This Brown representative came to my school, and when asked how many times one should take the SAT she said max three. I have this kid that has taken it over 6 times, (and he has good scores) what do you think that shows about him? NOT determination.</p>

<p>I somewhat disagree. If you are confident that you can score higher, by all means retake it. However, do consider how much you will improve in light of the other things you could be doing if you were not studying.</p>

<p>Well if you're sure that you can score 2350+, then it might be worth it. But honestly, at your level it'll be really hard to improve, and it's always a game of luck as well. Just think about this: Scores don't get you in. If you don't get in with a 2280, then you won't get in with a 2400, because clearly, you were not "good" enough in another area. </p>

<p>Zarah07's comment is definitely a good advice.</p>

<p>lol 6 times?!?!?!!</p>

<p>maybe after i get into college, i might retake and go for a perfect score just to brag in the future lol</p>

<p>50% rejection for perfect scorers is still 50% acceptance rate for perfect scorers. I'm sure for people with 2200s, the acceptance rate is not 50%. However, this does not mean a high score on SAT is causation for higher acceptance. (Getting a higher score doesn't make your chances better; however, the acceptance rate for people with higher scores is higher).</p>

<p>it just means you're that much closer to the green light, and have a bit more leeway to be lacking in other areas. whereas, ppl w/ low scores need to SHINE that much more</p>

<p>foolonthehill, u are right ...and, perfect score on sat and other things might be interdependent . so u cant really say 50% acceptance for perfect scorers is only due to SAT... those who scored 2400 were probably highly intelligent and/or really dilligent...other stats could have been as good as the SAT scores, and 2400 means probably the person was really good in english to write a good essay(if not great)..
so, we can never tell how important SAT is...for me, at least until I become a member of admission committee.....i will try to become one...cause it is the most mysterious job on the planet...even secret than CIA and MI6</p>

<p>Also, about that 50% rejection rate for perfect scorers--I'm willing to bet that a lot of those were people who were incredibly brilliant but who did not quite live up to their potential with their grades (I actually know quite a few people like this, and most of them are still applying to top schools even with a, say, B+ average). I believe that, to adcoms, high scores without the grades to support them looks worse than high grades with slightly lower scores (unless hard grades could be attributed to an especially difficult school). Just my thoughts, however...</p>

<p>lol one of my friends got a 2390(got a 10 on essay) and took 5 subject tests. 4 of em were 800, and he got a 790 on French (he is japanese btw). </p>

<p>guess what his gpa is? 3.4! he just doesn't do hw or anything!</p>