<p>Hi My d received a 630 on math 2 subj test and 620 on literature she does not want to take tests again and it's too late anyway - her college counselor said to send these scores to all of her colleges she is applying to - including Northwestern, USC, Univer of Michigan, UCLA, (the most competitive) - she doesn't want to send scores as they were not high enough in her opinion - None of the schools require Subj tests and a few recommend - she is going to major in either Business or Journalism....? Any thoughts? better to not send scores at all? Her 3 highest SAT scores were 710 720 and 680</p>
<p>Don’t send them; they are not required. Why bother spending money to send score that might potentially hurt you?</p>
<p>thanks was concerned b/c college counselor said it wouldn’t hurt her - could only help - appreciate your response anyone else disagree??</p>
<p>well, the only thing is that some colleges just like to see that you took the SAT II’s. Those scores are good for UCLA and probably UM too</p>
<p>Don’t send to schools that do not require them. For the schools that recommend I would ask on their boards specifically. I would be inclined to send them. SAT2s usually help but don’t hurt (ie it may be a neutral) depending on the school, as long as the scores are respectable.</p>
<p>You might ask her college counselor why she recommends sending them. She may have data that shows those scores are typical of successful applicants to those colleges from your D’s school. If she doesn’t seem to have a reason, then I might consider asking on CC on the school-specific forums as blueiguana suggested and deciding on a case-by-case basis. </p>
<p>With due respect to everyone, even though you’re asking in the parents forum, some of your responders are seniors whose opinions may or may not be more informed than your D’s.</p>
<p>Those subject test scores are lower than the SAT scores–the Math 2 score is (I think) at a significantly lower percentile. So, I wouldn’t send them to any schools that don’t require subject tests. Did she take the ACT?</p>
<p>There is recommended and then there is recommended. For instance, Northwestern went from requiring 3 Subject Tests, to recommending 2. I would ask the HS guidance counselor for data regarding students from your high school who have been admitted to NU without any Subject Tests. Back in the day, a Director of Admissions at a very selective college that recommended but did not require Subject Tests indicated that scores over 600 could only help. I don’t know how accurate that statement is in today’s admissions environment.</p>
<p>The Math 2 score is about a 42th percentile, and the Literature is about a 58th. On the other hand, the percentile for each of the reasoning SAT is over 90th–whichever section was the 680.</p>
<p>Yes, Hunt, but I don’t think the percentiles can be compared that way.</p>
<p>Aren’t the percentiles for the SAT based on everyone who took the SAT, whereas those for the SAT Subject Tests are based only on those people who took that subject test – who are generally better qualified than the overall SAT-taking population?</p>
<p>I’m sure that’s true, but in this case it seems to me that the disparity is great enough that it might make sense not to send them. I guess maybe I might send them to those colleges that “recommend” them, but not to those where they are not requested.</p>
<p>Math 2 percentiles are completely irrelevant. Results are skewed by the fact that mostly strong math students take the test. A 790 if I recall correctly is “only” 80th percentile. I would probably send them to colleges that recommend them, but not to those that are silent. At many colleges subject tests scores are considerably lower than the regular SAT scores.</p>
<p>Originally we had planned to only send D’s ACT score (which is much higher than her SAT) and not sending any scores from her 3 Subject tests either (above 700 on all 3). But, since reading your post, I emailed her GC to get her opinion. And she recommended that we also submit the Subject test scores.</p>
<p>what is GC?</p>
<p>GC is guidance counselor.</p>
<p>Guidance Counselor - sorry!</p>