<p>If there’s ever a draft, all hell will break loose, and they’ll have to repeal it…permanently.</p>
<p>I wouldn’t go that far nyustudent…There are certain instances where people wouldn’t freak out over a draft but, like i said, it would have to be a global crisis where the United States’ place in the world was at stake.</p>
<p>Women are restricted from the vast majority of combat roles in the Army today (ie no infantry, armor, special ops, artillery, etc). Why draft people who can’t fill a lot of the roles that are needed? The current all-male draft provides flexibility…extending the draft to women would just be a headache and frankly is unneccessary. There are more than enough young men in America to conscript if needed.</p>
<p>Frankly, if it comes down to a draft then we as a nation must be in a particlarly bad situation and we would need the best soldiers possible. Women just aren’t made for a lot of the crucial combat roles (ie infantry) which is why they are currently restricted from them. </p>
<p>That said, women do play an important support role in the military (ie logistics/healthcare etc) and our military would not be able to function without them. I just don’t see the need to draft women when, as I said earlier, there are tons and tons of young men who could fill all military roles under the current system.</p>
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<p>Neither does our government judging by the management of Katrina.</p>
<p>If women want equal rights, they would have to meet the same standards men have to meet, i.e. physical. A woman will have equal rights in the military only if that woman is as strong as an average man in the military. Otherwise, sorry ladies, no combat duty for you.</p>
<p>Don’t know exactly how to contribute to this thread, me wanting to fly planes and being just a poor little girl in my third year at a service academy. I guess all that mandatory boxing, wresting, marine corp martial arts 1 and 2, hours of swim class and 5 days a week practice for the international pistol team is still a waste of time since I’m not tough enough for the military anyways.<br>
I do admit the physical readiness test for the males and females should be the same someday.</p>
<p>We don’t get to engage in slavery…why should the government get to do it?</p>
<p>No government should EVER be above the law. EVER.</p>
<p>slavery? America has given you enough, NYU…if it ever gets to a point where our country desperately needs a draft (which I do not see happening in the near future) then I would be happy to serve, and you should be too. Not saying that combat is good, but I want my future children to be able to enjoy the same rights that I have.</p>
<p>Don’t tell me what I should or should not do. I understand you’re entitled the right to do so, but I’m also entitled the right to tell you to **** off (which I will not do out of common decency). The draft is involuntary servitude. Don’t put it in a cloak of patriotism; if a Citibank breaks into your house, kidnaps you, and forces you do work for them because Citibank desperately “needs” people, you’d scream bloody hell. Why should it be any different for government? </p>
<p>And by the way, you can’t enjoy your rights when you’re dead. I’m sorry, but this is an ugly, dog-eat-dog world, and when a country needs to resort to involuntary servitude (banned by the 13th Amendment, conscription-which can otherwise be referred to as forced military service, is by nature involuntary, and well, they’re demanding a service from you, hence involuntary servitude. At this point, it doesn’t matter if you’re compensated or not, if you would not have voluntarily joined the military, it falls under “involuntary”.) to defend itself, I know that it’s in trouble, and I will be the first to bail, and I’m taking all my assets with me. I have a legal right to protect myself and my livelihood against ALL those who try to take it away from me (including your own government), and I will exercise that right no matter what you think of me simply because it doesn’t matter what you think of me if I’m dead, and most importantly, you will be dead and I will be alive. I also have the legal right to be selfish, and I will exercise that right if I have a good-faith basis to believe that it will be essential to my protection.</p>
<p>And I strongly suggest that you exercise your right to protect yourself and your livelihood if or when it comes time to make that decision. It’s this simple: do you protect your “country” (in which you were arbitrarily born, and an entity that is becoming more irrelevant by the second due to globalization), or do you protect yourself (which you hold very dear to you…I hope)? If I ever have to make that decision, I will protect myself, every time, and with no regrets.</p>
<p>The military would hate drafted people. Officers will have trouble with them and the mission will be disturbed. They will never have discipline, will always be cynical, and would taint the unit as a whole.</p>
<p>I think that women should be in the draft, im not a sexist I just think that they should be assigned a non-combat duty. Not being a sexist again but I don’t think they would be able to handle the combat environment when grenades, rpgs, or mortars are being landed nearby and with heavy gunfire around. The environment would be just too intense and frightening for females and they also have their own personal body issues.. They can’t just go to the bathroom during a battle/war. If there was a draft I would probably say that infantry and other divisions would drop their physical requirements so that more males they are “overweight” or whatever can take places within battalion. I am pro-military so this is my view and as said im not a sexist.</p>
<p>HOOAH! Hats off to the Armed Forces! I will be there whenever President Bush or whomever wins the next election places a draft! GO USA!</p>
<p>noooo dont throw your life away</p>
<p>i used to be like military obsessed. but then the day i talked to the recruiter there was a funeral procession of a soldier and i could see all his friends crying i mean it opens your eyes it was like a warning or something
it was like isnt his life more important than some persons own agenda</p>
<p>NYU…so basically you are saying that you want to reap all the benefits of being an American without ever having to give back to a nation that has given you so much.</p>
<p>Got it.</p>
<p>No, I’m basically saying that society CAN’T and WON’T exist without individuals. And sometimes, those individuals need to turn their backs on EVERYONE else and protect themselves. Welcome to the real world. And any services I receive (or don’t receive) are paid for through taxes. I reap benefits because I pay taxes (well maybe I don’t but my parents do). Simple as that.</p>
<p>And no, I don’t like being categorized as American, European, or anything else. I’m me, and I don’t like being labeled. Plus, I went to private school pretty much my whole life, and I’m going to a private university without ever getting a cent of financial aid, so my parents are essentially paying for a lot of benefits we didn’t reap.</p>
<p>And don’t try to guilt-trip me, because I’m Machiavellian as hell, and ultimately, I am a realist and pragmatist. Plus it won’t work on me. Any time money is involved, it’s a business transaction, and feelings, friendships, and anything else is left out of it. If I borrow money from you, it doesn’t matter if I’ve known you since we were 2 years old, or you expect repayment for that matter; I will cut you a check for the amount I owe. There is no such thing as emotion when it comes to money. And ultimately, it comes down to money; if you’re drafted, you’re forced to incur an opportunity cost of marginalizing school, your career, whatever else. You’re forced to give up money that comes with working for however long instead of being enslaved by your own government, and any career advances that had to be deferred because of it.</p>
<p>I also realize that I can’t help my neighbor, society or anything else for that matter unless I HAVE THE MEANS TO SUSTAIN MYSELF AND MY IMMEDIATE FAMILY FIRST. Remember, you first, then family, then friends, then society.</p>
<p>That’s the long answer; the short answer is, there should never be a draft in the first place and if there is, nobody should comply.</p>
<p>that’s a brilliant analysis…</p>
<p>It isn’t (all) about money, NYU. It is about your ability to worship in whatever manner you want, vote, live in relative security, chart your own course in life, demonstrate freely regardless of your beliefs, etc. Money isn’t worth fighting for; those basic rights that we as Americans take for granted are.</p>
<p>It IS about money. And patriotism is an antiquated idea that holds no useful meaning in the modern world. The entire concept of a national entity was rendered irrelevant by globalization. If a country is being invaded, its citizens are free to stay and defend it; its citizens are also free to jump ship and find safety for themselves. It’s a universal human right guaranteed by international law. You somehow seem to think that America is the only country that guarentees those things. Open your eyes; most of the EU does too, as well as Canada, Japan, New Zealand, Austrailia, and others.</p>
<p>Yes, but why are the US, Canada, Japan, New Zealand, Australia, the EU, etc. able to offer their citizens such wonderful basic rights? Because people have fought and died for those rights. I’m glad you can see the future NYU, and that you can predict that our rights will never again be threatened. While you are looking ahead, can you tell me what the powerball numbers for next week are?</p>
<p>World War I was the “war to end all wars.” People thought it was over, that major wars were a thing of the past. Then an even larger threat emerged and WWII broke out. It would be naive to make the same mistake now. Patriotism is as relevant now as it ever has been.</p>
<p>What makes you believe that “basic rights” are true?
WHY are all people supposed to be equal?</p>