<p>ROI and basically, the whole ‘business metaphor’ that is applied to education on these forums. It’s helpful in some ways, but there are areas in which the business metaphor breaks down.</p>
<p>Referring to a college as “an Ivy League”: No, it’s not “an Ivy League,” it’s “IN the Ivy League” – which is an athletic conference, not a marker of some elite status that no one else can attain.</p>
<p>I agree about the “WE applied/wrote a letter/etc.” The “we” statements sometimes come from a parent whose child has applied to “an Ivy League (school)”. I wonder if “we” will do the student’s homework in college.</p>
<p>On the other hand, there is one annoying thing that I find amusing. That is the regularly poor grammar from a few posters who are well-known for their support for their “elite” alma maters over schools they consider lesser. I won’t name names. :)</p>
<p>I wish there was a like button! After going through the process with two kids, and markedly altering the process for second kid based on what we learned with first kid, this is exactly what I would advise. In fact, we* did a pretty good job of following this for second kid.</p>
<p>*“We” is being used to connote the discussion aspect of the search, not the actual application process. ;)</p>
<p>It’s not just words- it’s facial expressions. I usually get a look of pity when I tell people that my daughter attends a state school. The fact that she loves her affordable school and is very very happy means nothing. I have many friends who will be going into debt so that their kids can avoid the dreaded state school.</p>
<p>Elite and Brilliant. I have a special place in my mind for “Elite” but the more I come on CC the more I realize how many “brilliant” people there are out there-who knew?</p>
<p>The overuse of words for something that should be a very uncommon occurence is annoying.</p>
<p>If there are grammatical errors please forgive me I did not go to an elite school and I am pretty sure no one who taught or attended there was brilliant.</p>
<p>Pepper yes I get a " deer in the headlights " look as if they have no clue how to react. Unfortunately this is the community that I live in. I keep telling my younger daughter to keep her blinders on and refrain from getting caught up in this nonsense.</p>
<p>Yesterday my daughter comes home and tells me that she was discussing colleges with a friend who is refusing to add any in- state schools to her list ( only OOS and privates) because " my parents have been putting money away since I was born." I told my daughter that we have been saving for many many years as well, but I am also very realistic and reminded her that she and her sister need grad school. Please ignore my grammar as well as I also attended a state school.</p>
<p>Oh! An acquaintance of mine recently told me that her 16 year old son can’t go to a state school because his skin gets too dry ( he is perfectly healthy). I suggested that he drink some water and use moisturizer. You can’t make this stuff up!! She stated that he just can’t tolerate the cold. Mind you- the kid plays football so he is obviously strong. Sorry I know I strayed from the original topic.</p>
<p>:) The only people on this board who deserve to have the grammar police after them are those who claim elite status for their own schools and shoot barbs at “lesser” schools.</p>
<p>Let’s keep in mind that the structure of CC itself encourages the kind of thinking that underlie many of these complaints, so we ought not be surprised to find it here.</p>
<p>Look at the forum entry page: “CC Top Universities”, “CC Top Liberal Arts Colleges.” How many “top universities” are public? Five. How many public LAC’s are “top”? None. And, of course, the Ivy League schools are so special that they aren’t even grouped under “Colleges and Universities”. Instead each is some special kind of entity that gets categorized “Ivy League” to which even Stanford, MIT, Caltech, Duke, JHU, etc., do not belong.</p>
<p>Interesting that we hear about “quality” but never hear institutions touting “value-added” which is the consummate measure of “what diff does the place make” in the life of a specific student. When one begins to ponder THAT reality, lots of worm cans get opened with the biggest maybe being that families dump thousands and thousands of $$$ into this with great hope and there is literally NO accountability. Only anecdotes that can be correlated but not accounted for as causal for little Johnny getting a job, or Susie getting into grad school, or … </p>
<p>None engage parents or students in meaningful ways about this. It’s all perception. Reputation. What “they” think.</p>
<p>Funny I have another friend who has an 11th grade daughter who already knows the field she wants ( yeah right lol) which happens to be the same as mine. She keeps insisting that the kid can’t go to certain schools ( these are perfectly good schools with very reputable programs) because she won’t get a job. Well… Since this is my field I had to stop her and tell her she is wrong. Maybe this is true for certain fields, but not mine. It does not matter what school you graduate from. This is just another way of saying that state schools are not good enough. Here comes that word " prestige" again. So go ahead, take out huge loans for both kids, and pray that your husband does not get laid off at 55.</p>