<p>the isef forms aren't for siemens. the website should be relatively helpful. if not feel free to im or pm me w/ questions. i didn't make it to nationals like adam did but i do have info up to the regionals level.</p>
<p>Yes, but doesn't STS and ISEF have forums you have to get filled out before you ever started experimentation?</p>
<p>ISEF does, STS and Siemens don't. Thank God, too. That rule ISEF has shows that it really has the wrong attitude about research, and a very egotistical attitude about itself. Anyone who does research just to enter ISEF doesn't deserve to win.</p>
<p>Hmmm... I don't like it either. I'm going to state science fair, where they require ISEF forms, and I was like ***... I don't remember the exact date I started. Good thing my stuff was all CS. However, this year I'm getting my team all hte forms, so that we don't have to worry about this crap later on.</p>