<p>I like the strong academics, science programs despite the liberal arts nature and the social scene at Carleton and Macalaster, but I don't want to go to Minnesota. I like the Spring and Fall in New England (if not the winter), but it seems schools with similar academics there don't have similar social scenes. Hopefully, I'm wrong and hopefully some one knows a school or two that would fit.</p>
<p>Smith if you’re female.</p>
<p>Case Western (Ohio), Chicago, Bucknell, Wash U in St. Louis… check out those 4; I think you’ll find what you’re looking for</p>
<p>Case Western - Cleveland; Bucknell - southern Pennsylvania</p>
<p>Bucknell has a major Greek scene, not at all like Mac or Carleton. ?Swarthmore-very good sciences, southern NY doesn’t get that much snow.Middlebury reminds me most of Carleton, but the winter is no better. You might look at Amherst-the 5 college area is an asset, if you have great stats.Bowdoin on the Maine Coast- has winter but the ocean modulates it somewhat-of course I have to recommend Bates, but it does get more snow 20 miles inland.</p>
<p>I’m male, with good stats and I’m quite willing to brave the winters even if they get old after a month or so- my objections to MN are more gut feeling. I don’t mean to be offensive, I’m only one person, but, from the sum of my knowledge, that place doesn’t appeal to me. If that helps any future posts. Thanks for all so far…</p>
<p>Check out Grinnell, in Iowa. Lots of cross-applicants between Carleton and Grinnell. Excellent sciences and same unpretentious midwestern vibe. Grinnell has a huge endowment too, which translates into wonderful new facilities, merit aid and lots of money for student activities.</p>
<p>Might look at Holy Cross-very good liberal arts school with strong science program, including new science building. HC is not that religious and has nice campus-1 hour from Boston.</p>
<p>So LAC, strong in sciences, not fratty/preppy?</p>
<p>I’ll second Swarthmore, though a reach for anyone, and add Wesleyan.</p>
<p>Whenever you hear “strong greek scene,” don’t think it is not for you if you are not in to greek. I have 3 kids at 3 different schools , all “strong greek.” One joined, two did not. I attended a school w/ “a greek scene.” I did not join. I have nieces and nephews attendind schools w/ a strong greek system and none of them joined. WITHOUT exception, they ( and I) all had a wonderful and fulfilling college experience, active college social life and lifelong friends. (Although it is too soon to tell about lifelong friends for my 3 kids-2 in school and 1 just graduating) </p>
<p>You do not have to join the greeks to be social and have a life.</p>
<p>So please do not NOT consider Bucknell because of what OLDBAT (post #5) said. Others think it might be a good consideration.</p>
<p>I think Bucknell is a great school, and under-rated. I have advised many CCers consider it. However, the point I was making is that the vibe is not ANYTHING like Carleton… It is on the top Greek Scene list in the Princeton Review as well, I think…I also don’t think calling someone you don’t agree with “Old Bat” is very nice, or in the spirit of CC.Thanks.</p>
<p>Are you willing to go someplace warm? Have you looked at Pitzer? They have a joint science dept with a couple other Claremont Colleges (not Pomona or Mudd).</p>
<p>I won’t touch the Minnesota phobia. I’ll leave that to others.</p>
<p>Others sometimes considered peers of Carleton or Macalester are Bowdoin, Davidson, Hampshire, Lewis and Clark, Reed, and Whitman.</p>