Since USC is now more prestigious than UCLA, is UCLA still relevant?

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<p>You can’t even remember with whom you had conversation. You had a back-and-forth posting battle with TiaWNPP and a couple others about the safety issue of both campuses. However, it wasn’t me; I wasn’t involved.</p>

<p>And go ahead and ignore the elephant in the room. Your comments about the killer(s) swearing allegiance to UCLA. Get b&bsmom involved and try to turn it into a pedantic conversation of the meaning of it’s a wash, as a diversionary ploy.</p>

<p>If I were “hyper-emotional” wrt the topic – you were mistaken btw, then you were just a little too lighthearted about the killings, in bringing up a subject that was a little too fresh for those families whose kids were slain. If ‘living for once’ was inclusive of joking of these students’ deaths, then leave me out of it.</p>

<p>You rattled off the story of a male student at UCLA slashing the throat of another, a coed, in the Life Sciences building. This man is incredibly bright and would have had a great future as an MD or researcher. In his case, his genius was a little too close to his insanity.</p>

<p>And you simultaneously conveniently forgot about the student who was knived and the coed who was killed by the hit-and-run vehicle near USC in a lack of balance, but I wouldn’t expect anything else from your incoherent tirades. </p>

<p>I went back and caught up on what I missed, and I certainly saw that you were all over this thread, which I missed previously. </p>

<p>Wrt, academics… </p>

<p>In all you cited, re, the comparison of academics between both schools in all your posts, you listed the USN’s rankings as first and foremost and the most relevant. Go ahead and emphasize them and frame them, because this is all you have. </p>

<p>USN’s relies on faulty non-uniform stats that are all over the map wrt the colleges’ reporting of them in various forms including the CDS, which USC coincidentally doesn’t produce. Many colleges won’t even voluntarily report to USN, because of the sham that the publication has become. All of the USN variables can be worked and USC works them constantly, and this includes reportings on SAT’s and class rank. </p>

<p>(Btw, neither UCLA nor Cal has 97%+ top-decile graduates, probably more ~ 80%. Similarly, USC’s is probably at best 50%.) </p>

<p>One of the faults I find with USN’s rankings is its obsession with inputs. The only thing that USN is even remotely concerned in wrt outputs would be % of donor giving. And unlike TiaWNPP’s response to you, it’s evident that these can be worked as Alexandre pointed out on the College Search Board, and many of them do tweak them.</p>

<p>UCLA is most concerned about outputs, even taking under its plan of diversity those students with lesser qualifications, particularly scores, and bringing said students up to speed.</p>

<p>UCLA, therefore, has the advantage in:</p>

<p>-Rigor
-Competitiveness</p>

<p>And things that follow that UCLA has a large edge in:</p>

<p>-scoring better on grad admissions tests</p>

<p>-Pre-professional training in medicine, law, bus programs</p>

<p>-producing a far larger and better quality of grads in STEM (your lack of knowledge in both schools obviously questioned this because USC is a STEM lightweight, at least in comparison)</p>

<p>Undoubtedly, USC does things better, mainly the amount of trade majors for its undergrad student body, with which students there expect from the U, which ends in USC students being less educated, and having lesser level of professional aspirations.</p>

<p>These are just two different schools with different missions. Neither of them is better; neither is worse. Just different.</p>

<p>Drax, I was definitely talking to you. Your insecurity is quite apparent and pretty rancid.</p>

<p>I would disagree with the statement you make drax that USC students have lesser professional aspirations. I would instead claim that UCLA students have greater aspirations in fields that require/mandate formal training, while USC students in general have greater aspirations in fields where no degree is absolutely necessary (arts, business etc.) but a quality education is still suggested.</p>

<p>People, for your own damn good: Shut IT… </p>

<p>You’re arguing with a couple of demented morons who are most likely unemployed because their USC degrees didn’t get them anywhere. Now they have all the time in the world so if you’d like a nice, meaningless conversation, go right ahead and keep feeding these trolls… Otherwise, STOP bumping this thread.</p>

<p>@overacheiver92 don’t be a hypocrite by trolling yourself.</p>

<p>USC is much easier to get into from our out-of-state high school, and the kids who go to UCLA from here are much stronger academically. USC looked like a safety school for my son on Naviance, while UCLA was not a safety school for anyone here, even with perfect scores and grades.</p>

<p>Both UVA and NYU much harder to get in than USC.</p>

<p>lol anyone can get into usc as long as you have $$$$ trust me… i go to one of those rich preppy schools and kids with the lowest sats/gpa get in</p>

<p>Admission rates 2012 (US News) -</p>

<p>USC: 23%
UCLA:25.6%
NYU: 32.7%
UVA: 33.3%</p>

<p>This joke is now CLOSED. Make it happen moderator.</p>

<p>UCLA actually admitted around 20 to 22% in 2012…just saying.</p>

<p>^ I got it from college board so who knows how reliable it is.</p>

<p>The sheer volume of poorly constructed arguments on this thread hurts my head.</p>

<p>HA. You all think you’re funny don’t you? </p>

<p>My boyfriend goes to USC and I go to UCLA. He, as well as his professors, admit that UCLA is a better school. USC may be rising in ranks (FYI we’re ranked the same Nationally in US World News Report), but they are not an “Ivory Tower” School aka even comparable to an Ivy League School. Also, you obviously have not checked the world rankings. UCLA is ranked #8, where is SC? Want to hear more rankings? Because UCLA ranks #2 in the nation, according to Washington Monthly, in terms of community service. We also boast the most NCAA championships in the country. </p>

<p>Yes, UCLA is a public institution and sometimes it’s rough. But we learn so much more from the tough times… we stand up, we rally, and most importantly we fight for what we want. And that’s something a little private school kid wouldn’t understand.</p>

<p>Now that was an intellectual reply that speaks volumes for UCLA.</p>

<p>Not to trash on usc, but I’m an international student going to UCLA. And quite frankly UCLA has a much more solid international reputation than USC. I only knew about USC after reading about the UCLA-USC rivalry on UCLA’s wiki page. Lol. I guess in the US they may be regarded equally but internationally USC is miles behind. Just keeping it real.</p>

<p>How does UCLA’s reputation internationally compare with Berkeley, Stanford, Cal Tech, Harvard, and MIT?</p>

<p>UCLA is definitely not as prestigious as any of those schools…internationally as well.</p>

<ol>
<li>When I was a kid growing up on the East Coast, I used to watch the USC v UCLA football games on tv. Had no affiliation with either. But I always rooted for UCLA. I hated the USC fight song and that stupid trojan guy on a horse that rode around after touchdowns. The UCLA cheerleaders were prettier.</li>
<li>When I was in college at U of AZ and working part time off campus in Tucson, my boss was a USC alum. He was obnoxious. We got into a big argument about sports or something. He ended up firing me.</li>
<li> Went on a road trip for an out of town football game at USC. My friends and I found ourselves on frat row. One of the worst nights of my life… at least what I can remember.</li>
<li> I know a USC alum who is obsessed with USC football. Always wants to talk college football when USC is winning, but when they are losing he is sullen and withdrawn. Ridiculous.</li>
<li> Met a really nice guy the other day. Turns out he is a UCLA alum, as is his wife. They lived in the same dorm freshman year and ended up falling in love and getting married after college.
Bottom line: my daughter will be applying to UCLA, not USC.</li>
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<p>UCLA is still relevant if one is comparing it to Pepperdine.</p>