Since USC is now more prestigious than UCLA, is UCLA still relevant?

<p>usc has had a smarter student body than ucla for over a decade now. usc is also higher ranked in the u s news rankings. because of state budget cuts, why would a student want to go to ucla? and can a typical ucla student graduate with in 4 years?</p>

<p>This question can’t be accurately answered because it is based on a false stimulus. The words “USC” and “prestige” (or any variation for that matter) should never be used in the same sentence unless it includes the words, “lack thereof.”</p>

<p>Get better at trolling. Come back when you have some more experience. 0/10</p>

<p>I’m going to pretend they’re not a ■■■■■, just 'cause…</p>

<p>I chose to go to UCLA over '$C because of the quality of the science programs. While I will agree that USC has much better business and slightly better humanities programs, the people I have worked with in my majors (math and physics) have been absolutely top caliber and have opened me up to go to one of the top graduate programs in mathematics. UCLA and USC are not really comparable because they each focus on different areas as their strength, and as far as prestige goes, it really depends on your field for which is more prestigious.</p>

<p>As far as graduating in 4 years, that’s still pretty easy if you go in knowing what you want to do, or at least the general area of what you want to do.</p>

<p>[30</a> rock slams USC - YouTube](<a href=“30 rock slams USC - YouTube”>30 rock slams USC - YouTube)</p>

<p>On the East coast, prep schools send their grads to private schools like USC, which is perceived of as more prestigious than UCLA. In fact, the true measure of prestige is where the country’s finest prep schools send their grads.</p>

<p>Tina Fey and Alex Baldwin went to UVA and NYU respectively, both ranked lower than USC and not as prestigious…me thinks sour grapes ;)</p>

<p>Let’s not keep feeding the ■■■■■ (or let’s keep being sour grapes according to him - I don’t really care what he says). </p>

<p>If you want a healthy and courteous discussion, we would be glad to have it with you here on these boards, but notice how we don’t talk childishly on the UCLA board. That behavior is saved for the USC board ;)</p>

<p>Bring valid claims to this thread, avoid personal or anecdotal attacks on the university or the student body, and avoid fallacious claims and we’d be happy to have a fair discussion.</p>

<p>Otherwise, if you want to be a part of the rivalry flame war which appears to be more up your alley, stay in the similar topic on the USC board. </p>

<p>Thanks.</p>

<p>@SeattleTW
You’re paying $20,000 more every year to go to school in the ghetto while UCLA kids get to live in the best part of LA. Umadbro?</p>

<p>If going to a “more prestigious” school means that I would need to ■■■■■ the USC boards, then yes, UCLA is still relevant for me.</p>

<p>With USC’s generous financial aid, I most likely would have paid the same tuition. Cost was not a factor, however, I chose not to apply. Although I was accepted to schools “more prestigious” than USC. So it’s all relative I guess.</p>

<p>As a Seattle native myself, you give your school and city a bad name.</p>

<p>This discussion is really irrelevant and actually all of this childish “my school is better than yours” is pretty pointless …but constantly done by UCLA students quite frequently (especially the community college transfer students who probably didn’t gain admittance to either institution directly from high school). Yes , some USC students do the same, but all of the comments of trolling supposedly done by Seattle TW might have some validity if
g0ld3n, bephry and notaznguy didn’t post on The USC board on an almost daily basis…</p>

<p>Seattle is straight-up trolling because the USC board is crawling with Bruins right now and it’s beyond obnoxious.</p>

<p>Well at least UCLA’s in collegeconfidential’s top colleges list. SC? NOT!</p>

<p>oh and btw, UCLA has ranked consistently in the top 15 of WORLD UNIVERSITIES. SC? Not even high enough to compare.</p>

<p>EDIT: Sorry for feeding the ■■■■■ and participating in this nonsense discussion. I just have too much time in my hands right now (waiting for a documentary, “The Adventures of English”, to load).</p>

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<p>Is that really happening??</p>

<p>Come on you guys, that’s just embarrassing. I can’t even fathom why you would want to be on the USC boards in the first place, it’s completely irrelevant for us. Grow up and start representing UCLA as the more prestigious, less snobby university that it is.</p>

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<p>you USC students really take pride in being ranked 2 spots above UCLA, don’t you? I would too, if it was the only ranking where my school was found to be [negligibly] superior than our crosstown rival.</p>

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<p>World class professors and graduate programs, one of the nicest neighborhoods in LA, stunning college campus, etc etc.</p>

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<p>Yes, many graduate in less than four years. It’s funny how instead of providing any support for your argument, you just disseminate misinformation that’s ubiquitous among the uninformed.</p>

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<p>keep telling yourself that :rolleyes:</p>

<p>Do the research on where kids at Andover, choate, deerfield, Harvard Westlake, Phillips academy, blah blah blah and you will find dozens of USC matriculates but few at UCLA…</p>

<p>Why is that a measure of prestige? I would think that where students go after college would be more of an indication of how prestigious the university (or program) is.</p>

<p>I was talking to my friend from China, and apparently large parts of Asia they are under the impression that the top three schools in the US are Harvard, Yale, and UCLA. Flattering, but also kind of funny.</p>

<p>Anyway. If you were curious how UCLA and USC rank worldwide in terms of prestige in academia rather than just popularity among prep school graduates, you can take a look at this:</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.shanghairanking.com/ARWU2011.html[/url]”>http://www.shanghairanking.com/ARWU2011.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>The previous rankings were based on nobel prize laureates and such, but here’s another different global ranking system based on peer ratings. In other words, taking a sample of faculty from universities worldwide and having them rate their respect for other institutions.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-rankings/2011-2012/reputation-rankings.html[/url]”>http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-rankings/2011-2012/reputation-rankings.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Business - yes. USC’s also strong in Engineering, Music and Film. Humanities not so much. </p>

<p>Good rule of thumb: if it’s pre-professional USC’s likely competitive with or better than UCLA. If it’s an academic field, USC’s not even in the same league as UCLA.</p>

<p>USC looks a little high in the 40’s in that first ranking…2nd ranking in the 60’s looks about right.</p>