So Frustrated!!!

I wonder if you have special circumstances and could do a form or letter explaining your financial situation in more detail. The FAFSA really doesn’t always give an accurate picture. Some schools have the CS Profile which has a page on special circumstances. I would contact the financial aid offices and ask about how to go about writing about special circumstances in hopes of increasing the awards.

Ditto on AP credits and CLEP’s. She can buy a used textbook for human development or government, study a little, and take a CLEP. Composition CLEP’s are worth two classes. Great savings. They are offered at community colleges.

If you don’t have special circumstances, I don’t understand your budget. I don’t want to pry, but if you don’t meet the criteria for financial aid, it is hard to understand why your budget is so limited- especially with just one child. I am assuming there are many things we don’t know, and some of them could be detailed for financial aid.

My D#2 got one of those $20k merit scholarships, but she needed more to bring a COA of ~$52k into budget. She just started stacking other money - an athletic scholarship (which really made it all possible), a state merit scholarship, a state grant to residents who go to private schools, a $2000 scholarship from my father’s fraternity. I think she had 9 line items on her bill for grants and scholarships. She could have tried for more of the little $500-$1000 ones from local sponsors, but she didn’t. Her first year she got no need based aid and I think I paid about $9k for her billed costs (also had about $1000 in books, a new computer, some travel). in 2nd-4th yrs gets some need based aid and it covers COA now.

D#1 did not have stats as high as her sister, so had more limited options (because she had the same budget). She got a small merit scholarship, a talent scholarship, an alum scholarship (which the school grants like need based aid, although there isn’t really a way to know that you’ll qualify for one), the $2k from grandfather’s fraternity. This semester she gets a grant for study abroad. She now lives in her sorority house which is cheaper than the dorms.

You have to deal with each child’s situation. It sounds like OP’s child has received a lot of aid, but needs to look at the bottom line and where she can get bonus money for talent or outside scholarships or state aid.

D#1 goes to U Wyo. The OP’s child would get the top Rocky Mtn scholar award, 150% of instate tuition, which makes OOS tuition about $6500. She could get a dance department talent scholarship of about $2k/yr (I think the application deadline is 1/30, so hurry). The music/theater/dance school just had a $10M remodel and the dance studios are gorgeous. Daughter’s freshman roommate is a dance major and loves it. It is definitely a ‘working class’ school any you are much more likely to see a student driving a 20 year old pickup truck than an Audi or BMW (for both financial and practical reasons). The application is online and takes about 10 minutes. No essays, not a lot of questions. Admissions and merit money is based on stats. I met a kid at orientation who was trying to get my daughter to join ROTC (it wasn’t happening!). He told me he was one of seven kids, and his parents paid for the freshman year for each kid. After that, the child had to figure out how to pay for it. He and brothers had ROTC scholarships, his sisters had been RA’s, they found other jobs and scholarships. They were instate so tuition is low and there are a lot of grants/scholarships for instate kids, but they worked hard and made it happen. It really can be done with tuition between $0-$4000 (instate), and r&b is $8000 first year and less after that. Plenty of jobs around town, everything is included with the student ID (sports, movies, concerts, events on campus, athletic center), very low cost activities like kayaking or hiking or mountain biking. Really excellent study abroad program, environmental sciences, engineering.

Utah is another state where tuition is very reasonable, and students can become instate after a year (the first year has big scholarships). Montana and Montana State have some great specialty programs in film, nursing, geology. Boise State.

Go west!

@clowncar Apply to Idaho State. They give instate tuition waivers to students with strong profiles. With AP credit she can be in and out in 3 years. Idaho State is around $15,000 with the instate tuition. If your daughter borrows, uses AP credit and you can contribute $10k a year, you can get this done on your budget.

@twoinanddone - sorry to thread-jack, but – are you saying that at some of these Western unis, they’ll make you in-state for purposes of tuition after one year? I am interested in Wyo and Montana just b/c I love the national parks out that way (D is hankering to go to Colo, but I don’t see any inexpensive options there for us, being from PA)…

Not easy to become in state in Montana, once enrolled as a student; can’t speak for other states except New Mexico where the bar is not high to receive scholarships that bring cost down to in state level which to my recollection is under $20k including r&b.

Utah is the one that encourages it and makes it easy to be a Utah resident after one year. Missouri too.

Some of the smaller Colorado colleges are a little cheaper. CU is not, but Mesa, Ft. Lewis (Durango), Western State aren’t horrible, about $35k for OOS full price (might be some small scholarships).

Wyoming will not make you instate, but the Rocky Mountain Scholars money is 1.5x instate tuition (which is low at about $4000) for the top award, so OOS you are paying about $7500, which is a lot less than many pay for instate tuition in their home states. They will also allow you to stack department scholarships on that, and r&b is also very low.

Thanks, guys, much appreciated. I’ll add these schools/areas to my research list.

Utah would be nice for someone who likes Colorado but do investigate the influence of LDS ( % of older, married students, community) depending on where you are.
What about NAU?

@MYOS1634 - Thanks for the reply. We are early in the process; D is a sophomore and we live in PA and she’s never been out West (other than a trip to Texas once). Not sure the conservative vibe in Utah is her thing, though I’m sure it is a lesser presence on most college campii. Will check out NAU; is there some extra way to get OOS costs down for that school that isn’t reflected in the basic info I’m seeing?
(and again, I am sorry for hijacking the thread, OP!)

@Wien2NC WAIT! There was a warranty??? Why was I not informed about this?

@clowncar let me correct something previously said…and I’m sure that poster agrees. Your Ds 31 and 3.95 are GREAT, not just good.

Now in scholarship land, you need one of 2 things:
1). Spectacularity (yeah, I made it up), or

2). Great plus tons of research, legwork, time and flexibility.

Most of our kids would be in 2. My S was a 34/4.0 and the highest offer still left him a lot to pay. I think after all was said and done, they were great 1/3 to 2/3 tuition offers, but nothing close to full tuition. Why? He stayed in the top 100 range. In the top 50 it is very competitive to get anything at all.

In the end, we were able to full pay, so we didn’t investigate much further. But there are better offers out there. You need a lot of leg work though. Lots of people have success after a post like this bc others point out all sorts of places she can still apply! So keep doing the legwork!!

If she does choose to gap year, don’t do any community college. Start fresh again as a freshman student. And apply to all the places mentioned. And study to get that extra ACT point. The knowledge gained in 12th grade may be enough.

Deadlines not passed:
http://www.collegesimply.com/guides/application-deadlines/

UH is still taking. Apply!!

ACT 28+ qualifies for a presidential scholarship at Augustana college (25K off the 50K direct costs, or 3/4 tuition.) Deadline is April 1st + immediate for Honors College consideration.
Good possibilities for a 31 at Hendrix (great little college in Arkansas).

@clowncar Any updates on your situation? We are in the same situation. Have a son with strong stats but not tippy top to get the awards needed to make the COA within our budget. Costs are only down to about $45K a year. A bit too rich for us. It sure is frustrating when you learn there are not that many options out there for kids. Welcome to the doughnut hole.

@clowncar I didn’t read this whole thread - stopped where I read you saying that you didn’t think your child’s record was strong enough to negotiate for merit aid. My goodness! First, the record is quite strong. Second, my impression is that once the student has an acceptance, there is MUCH willingness on the part of the college to fight to keep that student.

The best way to ask for more money is to prep a list of “comparables” - this will vary by school. If you’ve got a large number of acceptances, group them according to size/“quality” and then contact each school where the aid package is on the low side. Express a LOT of love. Mention something specific…like my kid really loved her meeting with professor XYZ…would LOVE to have her in class… Sometimes, you can get School A to raise aid based on a better offer from School B and THEN, use School A’s now better offer to get more money out of School C.

Also, it really does help to ASK for need-based aid even if your FAFSA says you don’t need it. If you have obligations or any other special circumstance, write out a straightforward explanation and send it to the school’s financial aid office. Ask for a phone meeting. Most schools will work to keep those accepted students.

I’m sure it is hard to accept the financial aid reality - even if your expected family contribution coming out of the FAFSA had been calculated to be $10,000, the schools likely would add loans on top of that, required money from the kid due to summer employment and workstudy. So the total number that you will see on the aid package that is NOT being provided by the school will look more like $20,000 or more.

Now I’m gonna read more of this thread. Hoping things have already worked out!!!

Just to add another comment – note the unweighted GPA is VERY high - 3.95. This shows the risk of placing too much emphasis on a weighted GPA without knowing the individual high school’s norms. If this student is taking a ton of AP courses, getting straight A grades…in many schools, that would convert to a much higher weighted GPA. The colleges will look at these details and figure this out.

@blueskies2day If an Ivy league school is giving an athlete a grant that is NOT based on a calculation of financial need that is identical to the calculation procedure used for every other student - this is a violation of NCAA guidelines and if discovered, would lead to sanctions for the university. Regardless of how talented that athlete may be, the rules still apply. No, I’m not saying it could never happen, but if it DID happen and were discovered, the university’s entire athletic program will suffer the consequences.

@NEPatsGirl I sent you a pm about this