<p>i think you’ve posted this same thing like 10 times, yes as far as gpa goes you’re overqualified compared to their averages by a large margin, your rank is good, try the sat it’s easier, but at least your act is in the middle 50% (lower end though), i doubt ec’s will make or break your app. and it sounds like you at least have something, you couldn’t have been the president of everything so don’t sweat it. if you’re a rising senior it’s too late for ec’s now. if you want to know if you have a shot, yes, imo a good one, now would you mind posting something other than
<p>Anyways, good question. I’m considering applying here ED for the h*ll of it (only “top” school that aligns well [perfectly] with everything I want)</p>
<p>ecs show your interests, leadership, and how much you go after your interests, but remember that in terms of priority colleges list ecs below gpa and often times below test scores as well. it adds a little something extra to an already good application, but you need to have some pretty special ones to have it make up for a poor gpa/ sat etc… no ecs are bad, weak ecs aren’t the worst, decent ecs and good everything else is just fine, strong ecs and strong everything else just apply to harvard.</p>
<p>idk what weak ecs are anymore, it seems that everyone has tons of “leadership positions” and when you look at the amount of clubs/high school, and high schools/USA there are literally millions of “officers” so i don’t think it’s that special anymore. i think this also contributes to the decline of weight that ecs carry.</p>
<p>See, I have yet to uncover evidence suggesting EC’s carry less weight now than they once did, so perhaps you’d care to elaborate on the basis of your theory. But, let us for a moment suppose you are correct. Does the explanation you’ve provided thus far sound like the most plausible one? Because it seems to me that there would be two much more compelling reasons. First, in order to improve college rankings, greater emphasis on numbers like cumulative gpa and SAT score has accordingly diminished the relevance of extracurricular activities in the zero sums game of college admissions. Second, the invention of holistic admissions criteria was brought about before many schools had Jewish quotas to still allow for said universities to offer spots to less qualified gentiles instead. So perhaps then, we’re witnessing the gradual correction of a once overzealous and xenophobic practice.</p>
<p>i agree that college admissions have become a numbers game, and once prestigious universities that needed only rely on their name and reputation must compete vigorously now because of the institution of numerical rankings of colleges. in this scenario hard numbers are what determine your standing (gpa, sat, yield, acceptance rate). there is just no spot to account for ecs in such a numbers game.</p>
<p>i am sorry to say that i did not know about jewish quotas in admissions. if that is the case i hope we are witnessing the correction of that practice.however, in either case, the net result is the same in that the importance of ecs is diminishing.</p>
<p>i must reinforce my point further by pointing out that my high school has over 30 clubs. each club has between 4-6 officers. if we may assume that each hs has something similar then 120-180 officers multiplied by 32k high schools is a lot of officers. this does not even account for captains of sports teams etc… so when so many kids have these officer positions it really loses its value as a distinguishing trait among applicants.</p>
<p>in our friend iwantcollegehelp’s case with a gpa like that and decent act scores it favors him rather well to base admissions heavily on numbers.</p>
i guess I believed ecs DO make or break applicants.</p>